Regional: JUMPSEAT WAR NEAR
09-05-2014 | 03:06 AM
#71
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LOL exactly what I said, play with the weight and balance. Still you will be leaving how many other non-revs, even revenue passengers off. Actual revenue passengers that you are getting paid to fly, and other nonrevs from other airlines that are trying to get home or to work.
I just hope that it does not happens to you, or anyone.
Also we send a report to revenue accounting with my name, dispatchers name and captains name for every flight that is weight restricted. Something will seem off If it becomes a trend, and than you may end up at PSA sir.
I just hope that it does not happens to you, or anyone.
Also we send a report to revenue accounting with my name, dispatchers name and captains name for every flight that is weight restricted. Something will seem off If it becomes a trend, and than you may end up at PSA sir.
09-05-2014 | 03:08 AM
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EVERYONE ELSE is just Envoy. LOA votes and contract votes are different things. The wholly owned carriers have the disadvantage of having to compete with carriers that require no pilot input.
09-05-2014 | 03:26 AM
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Absolutely , managers manage situations. A simple call to MOC and the mechanic is sent over. It does not take very long to check a seat.
Once the write up is in the book, we can expedite a call to MOC, get it taken care of for operational need. When the A/C is at the gate its our aircraft remember that. We along with SOC, MOC and dispatch and the captain work together to make everything happen.
Operational need can get a lot of things done. But to be fair the captain does have to write it up first. And this can only be done in hubs where available line tech's are available.
But if the seat is deemed INOP it must be in the book from what I understand.
The only true way I guess a captain could mess with this would be weight and balance. But he may screw other non-revs with this, because its still by priority.
Once the write up is in the book, we can expedite a call to MOC, get it taken care of for operational need. When the A/C is at the gate its our aircraft remember that. We along with SOC, MOC and dispatch and the captain work together to make everything happen.
Operational need can get a lot of things done. But to be fair the captain does have to write it up first. And this can only be done in hubs where available line tech's are available.
But if the seat is deemed INOP it must be in the book from what I understand.
The only true way I guess a captain could mess with this would be weight and balance. But he may screw other non-revs with this, because its still by priority.
What about "Final Authority" do you not understand?
You may quote policy until you are blue in the face. The United States Federal Govt has clearly identified who the "Final Authority" is; and it isn't you.
Go read some FAR's
I don't support jumpseat wars; but I also don't support folks like you trying to undermine CA authority.
09-05-2014 | 03:40 AM
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What? So Expressjet voting no, Republic voting no, that doesn't count? We're talking about getting all regional pilots on board here, owned or not. What is so hard to understand about that? You self serving piles of crap are really something.
09-05-2014 | 03:50 AM
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All those no votes have absolutely no bearing on the LOAs being offered by AA. What is so hard to understand about that? Parker wants a rate HE can live with. As long as XJT etc contract doesn't interfere with that he could care less what it is. The contract carrier groups can vote down all they want. It won't prevent them from getting airplanes.
09-05-2014 | 04:04 AM
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All those no votes have absolutely no bearing on the LOAs being offered by AA. What is so hard to understand about that? Parker wants a rate HE can live with. As long as XJT etc contract doesn't interfere with that he could care less what it is. The contract carrier groups can vote down all they want. It won't prevent them from getting airplanes.
09-05-2014 | 04:36 AM
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09-05-2014 | 04:45 AM
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So let me pose a question to all these internet tough guys threatening jumpseat wars against "bottom feeders" "stealing' "their" flying.
ASA/Expressjet already has Eagle flying, and all signs point to us getting a lot more. We are in joint negotiations to improve our already industry leading contract, which arguably is better than Envoy across the board.
Are you going to start denying jumpseats to ExpressJet pilots too? for "stealing" "your" flying and making MORE money doing it, in essence over cutting you? If you're going to deny anyone who "steals" "your" flying, you have to do it to everyone, not just the pilot group you think you can bully.
How many pilots does Envoy have now? The combined ExpressJet group is well over 4000. And my understanding is a lot of your guys commute...
Jumpseat wars over anything other than jumpseat priority really solve nothing and benefit no one.
ASA/Expressjet already has Eagle flying, and all signs point to us getting a lot more. We are in joint negotiations to improve our already industry leading contract, which arguably is better than Envoy across the board.
Are you going to start denying jumpseats to ExpressJet pilots too? for "stealing" "your" flying and making MORE money doing it, in essence over cutting you? If you're going to deny anyone who "steals" "your" flying, you have to do it to everyone, not just the pilot group you think you can bully.
How many pilots does Envoy have now? The combined ExpressJet group is well over 4000. And my understanding is a lot of your guys commute...
Jumpseat wars over anything other than jumpseat priority really solve nothing and benefit no one.
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