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Everything here sounds very interesting. I hope it's true for them waterski guys!
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
(Post 1762211)
Why would your source violate an NDA? Seems way too far fetched to me.
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Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
(Post 1762241)
I would think it be obvious. They're going to use that rumor to staff the 36 new planes, since only a handful of new hires will see the upgrade. Standard regional hiring tactic.
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Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
(Post 1762241)
I would think it be obvious. They're going to use that rumor to staff the 36 new planes, since only a handful of new hires will see the upgrade. Standard regional hiring tactic.
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Originally Posted by Dukeuno
(Post 1762103)
Hey quick question did your source actually say you all would be getting XRs? I am curious because I was told that the XRs are actually our profitable aircraft and they and that we ( XJT) would not be losing them any time soon. Now I could see you all getting some more of the unprofitable aircraft that we are parking. We are parking around 100 of them. I think it would all be contingent on how well you all can staff the ones you are getting. Right now I figure you all are looking at hiring around 360 to 400 pilots if all the aircraft coming our add planes and not replace any. That means you would double in size. That is a lot of guys to get through training in a year, but it is possible. Plus that is without attrition which I think you guys are losing guys as well.
All of XJT's aircraft are unprofitable thanks to the CPA Skywest negotiated. |
Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
(Post 1762241)
I would think it be obvious. They're going to use that rumor to staff the 36 new planes, since only a handful of new hires will see the upgrade. Standard regional hiring tactic.
Math really isn't one of your strong areas is it? I bet doing those RNAV arrivals with no VNAV was a real brain buster for you wasn't it? |
Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
(Post 1762241)
I would think it be obvious. They're going to use that rumor to staff the 36 new planes, since only a handful of new hires will see the upgrade. Standard regional hiring tactic.
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Originally Posted by MavAv8r
(Post 1762296)
TSA doesn't need to start rumors to staff doubling the fleet. 36 new aircraft is going to take somewhere in the neighborhood of 180-200 captains factoring in attrition over the 18 months. Our most junior captain isn't on the seniority list yet. If you go by active line pilots.
Math really isn't one of your strong areas is it? I bet doing those RNAV arrivals with no VNAV was a real brain buster for you wasn't it? My math is fine. You're doubling your fleet, so pretty much all FOs on property that have the time will upgrade. Those that don't have the time I imagine would displace any CQFOs as they get the time. (Don't know if I'm a hundred percent correct on that one.) As for attrition, in order for attrition to help with the quick upgrade, the attrition has to come from the Captain side. You know better than I do how many of your captains are lifers. Eventually you'll have to start hiring people who are ok with flying in the right seat for a few years, unless the majors open the flood gates and a large part of your captains leave, or the majors hire a bunch of FOs, which they are hiring some. Plus you'll have to compete with the likes of Mesa and PSA who also advertise the quick upgrade, have all 70+ aircraft (except for PSA's 200's). And PSA offers the preferential interview. I was half joking about using that rumor to hire for the 36 planes. But you can't even tell me these companies haven't pulled crap like this in the past, I've heard it over and over again from captains. I hope the flood gates open, I hope the DOW never drops below 10,000, and that oil continues to drop, and that you guys, are able to ride the top of this whipsaw wave to a more secure job. My issue isn't with regional pilots, but with how mainline and regional mgt has treated us in the past. It's changing now because the numbers are on our side for the moment. |
Originally Posted by ArcherDvr
(Post 1762313)
I know your most junior captain isn't on the seniority list yet, that why I said a handful of new hires will see the quick upgrade.
My math is fine. You're doubling your fleet, so pretty much all FOs on property that have the time will upgrade. Those that don't have the time I imagine would displace any CQFOs as they get the time. (Don't know if I'm a hundred percent correct on that one.) As for attrition, in order for attrition to help with the quick upgrade, the attrition has to come from the Captain side. You know better than I do how many of your captains are lifers. Eventually you'll have to start hiring people who are ok with flying in the right seat for a few years, unless the majors open the flood gates and a large part of your captains leave, or the majors hire a bunch of FOs, which they are hiring some. Plus you'll have to compete with the likes of Mesa and PSA who also advertise the quick upgrade, have all 70+ aircraft (except for PSA's 200's). And PSA offers the preferential interview. I was half joking about using that rumor to hire for the 36 planes. But you can't even tell me these companies haven't pulled crap like this in the past, I've heard it over and over again from captains. I hope the flood gates open, I hope the DOW never drops below 10,000, and that oil continues to drop, and that you guys, are able to ride the top of this whipsaw wave to a more secure job. My issue isn't with regional pilots, but with how mainline and regional mgt has treated us in the past. It's changing now because the numbers are on our side for the moment. It's about time some logic comes out in a post. This would be correct all the way down to having to replace the CQFO's. |
Originally Posted by Riverside
(Post 1762304)
Maybe if you didn't get yourself fired, you would see an upgrade soon.
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