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11-12-2014 | 04:59 PM

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I was a former Legacy Eagle, thats right, the REAL Eagle, pilot for 20yrs.

Still have plenty of friends there.

Simmons, Nashville Eagle, Wings West, Executive?

This "Legacy Eagle" is a complex puzzle sir..

11-12-2014 | 05:32 PM

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Actually they passed it in the mou. It is a done deal. Parker is not asking to change scope he is happy the way it is. The extra 5 seat request was smoke and mirrors. If he got it great if not not sweat.

This is in no way shape or form accurate. The proposal scope language is not the same as in the MOU at all. Not even close.

11-12-2014 | 06:35 PM

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Simmons, Nashville Eagle, Wings West, Executive?

This "Legacy Eagle" is a complex puzzle sir..

I was Wings West.. Hate to see how Eagle has turned out.. Sad story...

11-12-2014 | 06:44 PM

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This is in no way shape or form accurate. The proposal scope language is not the same as in the MOU at all. Not even close.

You are correct to an extent. I am wrong to an extent. Here is the part of the mou in question..

a. The maximum number of commuter aircraft as a percentage of the Mainline Narrow-Body Fleet shall not exceed 75%.

b. The maximum number of large regional commuter aircraft as a percentage of the Mainline Narrow-Body Fleet shall not exceed 30% through 2014, 35% in 2015 and 40% thereafter.

Paragraph b is what parker wants to change

11-12-2014 | 07:17 PM

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If you guys would just read the mainline american thread on this you can understand what is being sought. Bottom line is mainline flying and the vast majority of domestic flying needs to be done on mainline equipment at a mainline airline at mainline pay rates. This proposal does not address those issues and is just the opposite.

11-12-2014 | 07:20 PM

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I'm assuming they consider 70 + seats as large?

11-12-2014 | 07:48 PM

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Yes.........

11-13-2014 | 12:41 AM

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How about no?! They should be working back towards 15% in 2001! Otherwise anything with more than 34 seats by mainline. This is a concession.

11-13-2014 | 04:36 AM

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Right. You cannot strike because you are to big to shut down would effect the economy is what will be said by the NMB and president of usa.

Delta plus 4 percent with profit sharing with the quality improvements and scope will be bartered away. Check delta and United scope in arbitration aa scope will be increased in management's favor.

11-13-2014 | 04:50 AM

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While DAL and UAL do have 70 seat scope, it's a much lower number of airframes (102 iirc, or roughly 20% of their 550ish mainline fleets vs. AA's ask of 35% of 800 which is 280).