Mike Enzi's attempts to repeal the ATP Law
03-20-2015 | 11:08 AM
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Quite a bit of your "Welfare Air" goes to move those miserable people who grow your food. Farm and rural folk pay money in the form of taxes, until the air transportation industry pays for every segment of their business, via fees and taxes, those "welfare air" folks get a shot at the transportation industry they support via taxes.
03-20-2015 | 11:52 AM
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It was GL that tried to get around actually removing their seats. The FAA stood firm that if they wanted to act like a P135 carrier that they BECOME a P135 carrier (at least on those specificed routes)
Their aircraft still flying P121 lines fly under those the appropriate rules are they not?
03-20-2015 | 11:58 AM
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They insisted that Great Lakes configure their aircraft like any other P135 operator.
It was GL that tried to get around actually removing their seats. The FAA stood firm that if they wanted to act like a P135 carrier that they BECOME a P135 carrier (at least on those specificed routes)
Their aircraft still flying P121 lines fly under those the appropriate rules are they not?
It was GL that tried to get around actually removing their seats. The FAA stood firm that if they wanted to act like a P135 carrier that they BECOME a P135 carrier (at least on those specificed routes)
Their aircraft still flying P121 lines fly under those the appropriate rules are they not?
The three main problems I have with it are
(1) it's is none other than a workaround of FAA rules (the ATP Rule) which are specifically intended to increase regional airline safety.
(2) the paying passengers do not know what is going on and probably would not like this if they did know what it means for them, and
(3) if the CA goes kaput you have a 250 (500?) hour wonder in charge of a dozen paying passengers in a Beech 1900 going 250kts in potentially bad weather with no certified gps or even a working autopilot.
Is it legal? Apparently. Is it safe? There is reason to doubt and/or debate that.
03-20-2015 | 12:08 PM
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Quite a bit of your "Welfare Air" goes to move those miserable people who grow your food. Farm and rural folk pay money in the form of taxes, until the air transportation industry pays for every segment of their business, via fees and taxes, those "welfare air" folks get a shot at the transportation industry they support via taxes.
Can you explain this about EAS, I thought the taxes on the airline tickets pay for the govt. svcs such as airport fees and atc. Also, couldn't the farm folks drive to a bigger city to get service? I can think of a few places that got EAS and are within 2-3 hrs drive of a city with airline service.
03-20-2015 | 12:12 PM
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Well I do not get much inside data from there, but what you say sounds correct from what people say here about it.
The three main problems I have with it are
(1) it's is none other than a workaround of FAA rules (the ATP Rule) which are specifically intended to increase regional airline safety.
(2) the paying passengers do not know what is going on and probably would not like this if they did know what it means for them, and
(3) if the CA goes kaput you have a 250 (500?) hour wonder in charge of a dozen paying passengers in a Beech 1900 going 250kts in potentially bad weather with no certified gps or even a working autopilot.
Is it legal? Apparently. Is it safe? There is reason to doubt and/or debate that.
The three main problems I have with it are
(1) it's is none other than a workaround of FAA rules (the ATP Rule) which are specifically intended to increase regional airline safety.
(2) the paying passengers do not know what is going on and probably would not like this if they did know what it means for them, and
(3) if the CA goes kaput you have a 250 (500?) hour wonder in charge of a dozen paying passengers in a Beech 1900 going 250kts in potentially bad weather with no certified gps or even a working autopilot.
Is it legal? Apparently. Is it safe? There is reason to doubt and/or debate that.
I'm only repeating what has been shared on the many GLA threads that you and I have both read.
All of those concerns are true - but no different than they are from any other P135 carrier. Some of those operating single pilot even I thought.
As much as some might not like them -- there are slightly different rules for the two. If GLA operates under the P135 like any other operator would - then it would actually be unfair to the business to NOT let them convert part of their certificate
03-20-2015 | 12:52 PM
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I do not know what the differences between 121 and 135 passenger ops are. Good question for someone who does know. I have 121 passenger experience and 135 cargo experience, which is not enough to go on.
03-20-2015 | 01:02 PM
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Can you explain this about EAS, I thought the taxes on the airline tickets pay for the govt. svcs such as airport fees and atc. Also, couldn't the farm folks drive to a bigger city to get service? I can think of a few places that got EAS and are within 2-3 hrs drive of a city with airline service.
03-20-2015 | 01:38 PM
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What Enzi fails to address is the fact that people are no longer willing to invest upwards of $100,000 to get into this career and make $18-$24000 a year to start when they can invest the same amount of money in another profession and make significantly more money to start and over the lifetime of their career. Until compensation improves to the point that putting money into this career becomes a smart investment, this will never get better.
03-20-2015 | 02:42 PM
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$10,000 for all of those ratings? You must have had some sweet connections. Even if you figure you did everything for $85/hour, 250 hours of flight time at that rate is over $20,000. I'm not saying it's impossible, but unless you know a guy or have some type of scholarship.....yeah that's impossible.
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