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Old 07-30-2015 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Lots of talk of bankruptcy for a company that still generated a profit...
Uh Ground COntrol to Major Tom???s...
When has that EVER mattered????

NWA Cargo, making TONS of money that they needed to hide to justify the BK.

AAR, now AAG, had $5billion in cash and declared BK, while shuffling profits off to subs like eagle. Did it simply to get out of aircraft leases.

It happens Every.SIngle.Day in US Corporate America. Its a shell game. Parent company shows loss while cash position INCREASES.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Hmmm, how quickly one forgets about American's financial status when they filed
Hmmm, AMR Corp was in a perpetual cycle of quarterly losses.

The companies debt liabilities exceeded their liquid and non-liquid assets. The company was insolvent.

Same thing happened to PNCL Corp.

RAH is not insolvent. In fact they has positive cashflow and are still, as of now, reporting EPS 4 cents. Minute, yes, but still solvent.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ThreeStripe
United to Skywest: how long to spin up 30 more E175's?
Skywest to United: 90 days.

American to Envoy: how long to spin up 30 700's?
Envoy to American: as soon as you stop giving them to PSA

Delta to Express Jet......you get the idea
You forgot PDT. They're about to double in size and could easily change over from 145's to 175's.
BB better get it done.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 03:17 PM
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True, I just picked three carriers at random to prove a point.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
Hmmm, AMR Corp was in a perpetual cycle of quarterly losses.

The companies debt liabilities exceeded their liquid and non-liquid assets. The company was insolvent.

Same thing happened to PNCL Corp.

RAH is not insolvent. In fact they has positive cashflow and are still, as of now, reporting EPS 4 cents. Minute, yes, but still solvent.
My point being that it is easy for a company of that size to show a loss... they were showing a loss while at the same time increasing their cash horde.

Debt exceeding assets doesn't always make a company insolvent... being unable to pay debt obligations does that. AMR was not close to defaulting on any debt.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by bonesbrigade
My point being that it is easy for a company of that size to show a loss... they were showing a loss while at the same time increasing their cash horde.

Debt exceeding assets doesn't always make a company insolvent... being unable to pay debt obligations does that. AMR was not close to defaulting on any debt.
AMR, claimed that unless they restructured they would be unable to compete
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Old 07-30-2015 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
You forgot PDT. They're about to double in size and could easily change over from 145's to 175's.
BB better get it done.
Not going to happen. From what Ive been hearing, PDT is having a hard time even getting its 145 program signed off by the feds. PDT has always operated turbo props and the jet is clearly a big hurdle to overcome, and thats not a knock against them, just a big task. I know you're a pretty hard cheerleader for PDT, but try to stick to reality.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by TurbineTime
Not going to happen. From what Ive been hearing, PDT is having a hard time even getting its 145 program signed off by the feds. PDT has always operated turbo props and the jet is clearly a big hurdle to overcome, and thats not a knock against them, just a big task. I know you're a pretty hard cheerleader for PDT, but try to stick to reality.
Lol! We've got 22 in class now and more and more RAH pilots applying. Our instructors are typed and the sim is getting ready.'
There's no hard time. Another class of 20 is on its way.
You really think we are having a tough time. Just wait and see.
I forgot PSA had a hard time going from 25 Props😜
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Old 07-30-2015 | 03:52 PM
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you saying pdt has their own e145 sim, where?
these pilots in training that you say 25/20 for what aircraft the e145, where they going to do ioe? for that matter, where is the sim to be used?
all pdt has done is announce the base for the e145, as far as i know.
just as psa, your operation will su ck for the next five years. pdt, psa and envoy are not the prodigal children rather the bastards of aag.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Lol! We've got 22 in class now and more and more RAH pilots applying. Our instructors are typed and the sim is getting ready.'
There's no hard time. Another class of 20 is on its way.
You really think we are having a tough time. Just wait and see.
Exactly no hard time at all. If it weren't for FAA protocols, the 175 would most likely be happening now. The rumors of approval issues come from the fact we are taking a big step in the operation that other regionals took long ago. Of course the FAA will scrutinize every last detail. Last I heard we have 150-200 people in the pipeline for interviews and class dates. As usual, haters gonna hate though.
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