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Old 07-30-2015 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Lots of talk of bankruptcy for a company that still generated a profit...
Well said.

Unless they pull down flying SO drastically that they are defaulting on aircraft payments, then there is nothing to see here.

The company still has positive cash flow and therefore, bankruptcy doesn't make sense.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Lots of talk of bankruptcy for a company that still generated a profit...
How much did AMR have in the bank when they declared? 5 billion? Bankruptcy seems to have morphed into a process of restructuring bad contracts instead of being the result of actually not having cash.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
How much did AMR have in the bank when they declared?
How much profit did AMR make in the quarters preceding their filing?
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Old 07-30-2015 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Beast
My bet is the Delta flying is at unprofitable rates, so they will go for a pre-packaged bankruptcy to shed those contracts, then emerge with just 170/175 flying. Might be a stronger company for it, or might not. Who knows.
This isn't about profitability. All the flying is profitable, but we don't have the staffing to keep all the planes in the air.
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Old 07-30-2015 | 08:04 AM
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If my hunch is correct, the bankruptcy wouldn't be about profits or money in the bank, it would be about shedding the Delta E145 flying. Worth what you paid me for it
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Old 07-30-2015 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by SmitteyB
Well said.

Unless they pull down flying SO drastically that they are defaulting on aircraft payments, then there is nothing to see here.

The company still has positive cash flow and therefore, bankruptcy doesn't make sense.
Hmmm, how quickly one forgets about American's financial status when they filed
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Old 07-30-2015 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Hmmm, how quickly one forgets about American's financial status when they filed
Should've read the rest of the posts before this post. Sorry for the redundancy
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Old 07-30-2015 | 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by gojo
Hmmm, how quickly one forgets about American's financial status when they filed
Was the quarter (or four) immediately preceding their BK filing profitable?
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Old 07-30-2015 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
Was the quarter (or four) immediately preceding their BK filing profitable?
Yes, it was more about restructuring to be more competitive with Delta and United
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Old 07-30-2015 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
How much did AMR have in the bank when they declared? 5 billion? Bankruptcy seems to have morphed into a process of restructuring bad contracts instead of being the result of actually not having cash.
This ^^^^ ...bankruptcy has nothing to do with profitability. It's a means of restructuring and cramming a concessionary contract down the pilot's throats. Not to mention shedding less profitable contracts for the sake of staffing more profitable ones.
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