RJET down by -50% today?
07-29-2015 | 12:45 PM
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The experiment at PSA hasn't worked as planned and they have already slowed down. If you didn't go to PSA already, you missed the boat. Sure, go for street captain if you have the time, but you will be junior for a long time. Their woes are just beginning. Compass is starting to experience it now.
Now the 50 jet replacement that Republic has tried to replace the Envoy pilots is failing. They only staffed the Envoy flying by parking other airplanes.
You can be successful in this environment with the initial replacement wave, but once you get past the initial seniority bump, the staffing issues will go the other way.
This isn't pre-2013 ATP minimum replacement anymore. Republic failed to adapt and this is the result.
Now the 50 jet replacement that Republic has tried to replace the Envoy pilots is failing. They only staffed the Envoy flying by parking other airplanes.
You can be successful in this environment with the initial replacement wave, but once you get past the initial seniority bump, the staffing issues will go the other way.
This isn't pre-2013 ATP minimum replacement anymore. Republic failed to adapt and this is the result.
07-29-2015 | 12:57 PM
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As pilots, it doesn't matter if you vote yes or no. The laws of economics, supply and demand will always play out and never need any help from us.
I don't think Rjet is going anywhere, and I highly doubt a mainline would acquire any more regionals unless they wanted a place to dump money into to show a loss for financial reasons. Y'all just sit back, relax, and have some popcorn.
I don't think Rjet is going anywhere, and I highly doubt a mainline would acquire any more regionals unless they wanted a place to dump money into to show a loss for financial reasons. Y'all just sit back, relax, and have some popcorn.
07-29-2015 | 01:07 PM
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Good point about a ****ed off workforce. I can't see mainline wanting to waste money on appeasing a ****ed off pilot group. It will only get much worse when bankruptcy happens. Cheaper to just wait it out, and get the assets at the fire sale. Most of the pilots will have no problem going elsewhere.
07-29-2015 | 01:13 PM
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IND is the center of the universe to them. I wonder what percentage of yes votes came from IND. If the NMB ever releases the pilots, it's going to get very nasty.
07-29-2015 | 05:46 PM
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I suspect that there will be a pre-packaged bankruptcy, United will be debtor in possession, Delta will just walk away from their lift (ASA and Endeavor will make up the difference), and American will figure out a way to move the planes to Envoy, assuming United doesn't decide to keep ALL the 170/175s, since they are in desperate need of some narrow body/large regional lift (they don't have the 717s that Delta got). It might work out just peachy for the the United side of things, but I suspect the other sides are screwed.
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07-29-2015 | 06:01 PM
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I suspect that there will be a pre-packaged bankruptcy, United will be debtor in possession, Delta will just walk away from their lift (ASA and Endeavor will make up the difference), and American will figure out a way to move the planes to Envoy, assuming United doesn't decide to keep ALL the 170/175s, since they are in desperate need of some narrow body/large regional lift (they don't have the 717s that Delta got). It might work out just peachy for the the United side of things, but I suspect the other sides are screwed.
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DL has 66 planes (granted some are E145)
AA has 104 planes (all 170/175)
UA has 84 planes (all 170 and assuming Q400 fleet to zero)
07-29-2015 | 06:11 PM
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RAH will be forced to eliminate one of their partners flying altogether. As they continue to shrink, it will be more sensible to serve two of their partners well instead of 3 of their partners badly.
For those saying a sale, just who can do a better job than rah themselves? How would a new owner run rah differently of any real significance?
There is really no good options here, nature is simply taking its course.
For those saying a sale, just who can do a better job than rah themselves? How would a new owner run rah differently of any real significance?
There is really no good options here, nature is simply taking its course.
07-29-2015 | 06:31 PM
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Integrate current 121 by hire dates at their first airline that they worked for.
When joining the "121 world" you will be added to the list by the date you start new hire class. In order to stay on the list you can't be off a 121 payroll for more than (blank) number of months or years.
You want to make a life flying non 121? Go for it. You'll risk giving up seniority.
If you want to maintain your relative senori at your current airline then don't switch companies.
If a pilot has not changed companies then they will not lose their relative senority by having a pilot that is changing pushing them downward. This will make the national senority list useless at first but allow upcoming generations to benefit. Boiled down this means that pilots that do not switch companies from where they were before the list will be protected. Pilots that join a company after the list is formed will be fair game to be pushed downward.
Thoughts?
When joining the "121 world" you will be added to the list by the date you start new hire class. In order to stay on the list you can't be off a 121 payroll for more than (blank) number of months or years.
You want to make a life flying non 121? Go for it. You'll risk giving up seniority.
If you want to maintain your relative senori at your current airline then don't switch companies.
If a pilot has not changed companies then they will not lose their relative senority by having a pilot that is changing pushing them downward. This will make the national senority list useless at first but allow upcoming generations to benefit. Boiled down this means that pilots that do not switch companies from where they were before the list will be protected. Pilots that join a company after the list is formed will be fair game to be pushed downward.
Thoughts?
What about all the scum bag airlines out there? Wouldn't they just hire the least experienced pilots so they don't have to pay as much in pilot labor costs?
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