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09-07-2015 | 10:44 PM

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prior121

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Originally Posted by FAAGoldSealCFI

I have a friend who worked for Mesa and said to avoid at all costs....however, any word of upping the newhire pay to close to $40 an hour in the new contract?

Wrong

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09-07-2015 | 11:11 PM

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tinman1

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Originally Posted by rokking566

Hey Guys,

Opportunities have arisen and I was wondering what job I should take. SkyWest or Mesa? I want to be based in Phoenix because my family has a vacation home in Scottsdale and I could just live there for free? Which airline would you pick based on: pay, QOL, and highest chance that the base stays open for the regional.

Thanks

PHX is definitely attainable but you won't get it straight out of the gate no matter which one you choose. Just FYI most west coast domiciles are going to be senior. Junior bases for the new guys are usually in places like ORD, IAD, CLT, etc...

The exception is Compass and their LAX domicile, but that is definitely an anomaly and not the norm.

09-08-2015 | 04:02 AM

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The one and only reason anyone should even think about Mesa is if they absolutely freaking have to live in PHX.

09-08-2015 | 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by hijo

The one and only reason anyone should even think about Mesa is if they absolutely freaking have to live in PHX.

Mesa is where the washouts from my new hire class went.

09-08-2015 | 07:22 AM

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Skyvector

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Originally Posted by zondaracer

Mesa is where the washouts from my new hire class went.

Mesa is where the washouts, unhireables, and otherwise rejected go. It's the boneyard of Regional pilots. And their practice of hiring "questionable" people is needed to support their extremely low pay and quality of life. Pilots who can't be hired anywhere else won't be so choosy about "little" things like pay and long term career potential.

09-08-2015 | 07:49 AM

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prior121

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Originally Posted by Skyvector

Incredibly false. Most new hires I fly with are normal young guys with no failures and no sketchy backgrounds who simply bit the fast upgrade carrot that was dangled in front of them. The other handful I fly with are RAH, and XJT refugees, who were tired of looking at an 8+ year upgrade.

09-08-2015 | 09:27 AM

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From: gear slinger

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Originally Posted by hijo

The one and only reason anyone should even think about Mesa is if they absolutely freaking have to live in PHX.

Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if that is the one of the main reasons we are still attracting new blood. It seems like every couple of pages in the main Mesa thread someone is optimistically inquiring about PHX growing again.

09-08-2015 | 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyvector

That is quite a blanket statement for our pilot group. And coming from someone who doesn't even work here at that.

I wish you would say that to some of our guys who have flown in Afghanistan under, let's just say, less than favorable conditions. In fact I'd love to see it, but I'm guessing you're too big of a coward when you step out from behind the computer. I have to say I am a little surprised hearing this from an Envoy pilot. I thought you types had more tact than that.

09-08-2015 | 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyvector

Lol. Mesa pilot here: Bachelor's degree from a major university, no criminal history, no failures, no FAA certificate action, letters of warning, incidents, or accidents. Haven't flown with any of the types you've described in your post.

Sorry you're miserable. Try not to take it out on everyone else.

09-08-2015 | 12:00 PM

#20

tinman1

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Originally Posted by FrequentFly3r

Well we definitely have those types, believe me, but it's not the vast majority of pilots here l. Not even by a long shot. It would be like saying all SkyWest pilots are tools because you met a handful who scored a kanye on the douche baggery scale.