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02-08-2016, 10:14 AM
#31
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Hey man, your way overthinking it. It doesn't really matter what you opinion of the training department is, unless you want to work in it. Just pass, get to the line and catch up there, no matter where you go your gonna be behind for the first 100+ hours.
I am sure there are a handful of TSA guys who are legit POed for life, but the rest of these bozoes just read a story on a Wikipedia page, mabye they should turn down United because there's a change they would have to fly with an actual Scab captain.
And i am pretty sure one piticular guber on here works for Compass, you should google search their beginnings and scratch your head at what the difference is.
I am sure there are a handful of TSA guys who are legit POed for life, but the rest of these bozoes just read a story on a Wikipedia page, mabye they should turn down United because there's a change they would have to fly with an actual Scab captain.
And i am pretty sure one piticular guber on here works for Compass, you should google search their beginnings and scratch your head at what the difference is.
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02-08-2016, 10:41 AM
#32
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Joined APC: Jan 2016
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There is no way this is a legitimate thread. Either this guy just crawled out from under the biggest rock ever, oz has done absolutely zero research before hitting sent on the application. If this is a legitimate thread with a serious question, I believe you are right where you should be at GoJets!
02-08-2016, 10:48 AM
#33
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Gojet staffed its airline with TSA pilots, out of seniority, so they could avoid paying TSA pilots the correct worth for flying for larger planes. Junior TSA pilots and others go there and make Gojet function. That is not how Compass came to be. Big difference was Compass was voted into being and allowed, even though I think the group should have held firm in that flying should have been done by the NWA pilots themselves, it is not the same thing as Gojet.
Gojet is what Gojet is. You can't deny the truth.
Gojet is what Gojet is. You can't deny the truth.
02-08-2016, 10:56 AM
#34
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Originally Posted by 404yxl
Gojet staffed its airline with TSA pilots, out of seniority, so they could avoid paying TSA pilots the correct worth for flying for larger planes. Junior TSA pilots and others go there and make Gojet function. That is not how Compass came to be. Big difference was Compass was voted into being and allowed, even though I think the group should have held firm in that flying should have been done by the NWA pilots themselves, it is not the same thing as Gojet.
Gojet is what Gojet is. You can't deny the truth.
Gojet is what Gojet is. You can't deny the truth.
Ultimately, no one really cares, but for some reason a buch of people who never worked for gojets or TSA like to beat a drum on here and make themselves feel better, or special.
Remember, your airline is better than somebody else's. That makes you better or more special than those other people.
02-08-2016, 11:16 AM
#35
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Never said Compass is great. In fact, Endeavor would be the place I would recommend new hires going for the best compensation and movement.
As for Gojet comparing to Compass, keep stretching. The two couldn't be further from the truth.
Gojet used out of seniority pilots to subvert the TSA pilot group. Enough said.
As for Gojet comparing to Compass, keep stretching. The two couldn't be further from the truth.
Gojet used out of seniority pilots to subvert the TSA pilot group. Enough said.
02-08-2016, 11:34 AM
#36
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Posts: 10,067
Originally Posted by Waitingformins
Exactly the same thing, gojets was created due to labor and mgmt dispute, compass was created due to a labor and mgnt dispute. They were both created to CUT labor cost.
Ultimately, no one really cares, but for some reason a buch of people who never worked for gojets or TSA like to beat a drum on here and make themselves feel better, or special.
Remember, your airline is better than somebody else's. That makes you better or more special than those other people.
Ultimately, no one really cares, but for some reason a buch of people who never worked for gojets or TSA like to beat a drum on here and make themselves feel better, or special.
Remember, your airline is better than somebody else's. That makes you better or more special than those other people.
02-08-2016, 11:52 AM
#37
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It should be also noted that Compass holds a ton of positions for furloughed Delta pilots (e.g. all Delta pilots are senior to all Compass pilots, minus a few), with contractual protections and work rules if it were ever to happen. Gojet, not so much for the TSA pilots.
02-08-2016, 01:35 PM
#38
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Originally Posted by SevereClear1
Google "scab definition".... not what gojet pilot are.
Another option is to search APC Forums. This thread might be instructive: the gojet/TSA history lesson
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02-08-2016, 01:40 PM
#39
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Originally Posted by TonyC
You are correct, and I didn't say they were. But when you Google them together you stand a good chance of learning why any self-respecting pilot would not want the name of that union-busting alter ego airline on their résumé. GoJets was created for the sole purpose of undercutting the jobs of legitimate pilots fighting for contract improvements, and the fact it still exists is a disgrace to the industry.
Another option is to search APC Forums. This thread might be instructive: the gojet/TSA history lesson
.
Another option is to search APC Forums. This thread might be instructive: the gojet/TSA history lesson
.
OK yes they did something that hurt TSA a while ago, the current pilot group is mostly not those people. The current management style is considerably different than it used to be.
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02-08-2016, 01:51 PM
#40
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
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Originally Posted by TonyC
You are correct, and I didn't say they were. But when you Google them together you stand a good chance of learning why any self-respecting pilot would not want the name of that union-busting alter ego airline on their résumé. GoJets was created for the sole purpose of undercutting the jobs of legitimate pilots fighting for contract improvements, and the fact it still exists is a disgrace to the industry.
Another option is to search APC Forums. This thread might be instructive: the gojet/TSA history lesson
Another option is to search APC Forums. This thread might be instructive: the gojet/TSA history lesson
It holds even less true for those hired much later. Hiring managers didn't care back then and really don't care now.
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