ASA MEC Chair election
#11
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Just as you should since you started a new acct on APC.
As to the MEC Chair. Are you looking for the Utopia? As in politics you will never find it. The problem with humans is they want everything and everyone to be perfect but fail to accept people for who they are. Just as with life some things go great and some don't.
As to the "best" MEC chairman, I doubt you've been around long enough to make that claim. We've had 10 that I can count.
As to the MEC Chair. Are you looking for the Utopia? As in politics you will never find it. The problem with humans is they want everything and everyone to be perfect but fail to accept people for who they are. Just as with life some things go great and some don't.
As to the "best" MEC chairman, I doubt you've been around long enough to make that claim. We've had 10 that I can count.
You know who I am, you know how long I've been here, and you know why I started a new account. But I'm realizing once again, I should have just stayed retired instead of opening myself up to more attacks from keyboard warriors.
#12
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Joined APC: Jul 2012
Posts: 503
I lurk here, but the original attack against Tony was too much to ignore.
You know who I am, you know how long I've been here, and you know why I started a new account. But I'm realizing once again, I should have just stayed retired instead of opening myself up to more attacks from keyboard warriors.
You know who I am, you know how long I've been here, and you know why I started a new account. But I'm realizing once again, I should have just stayed retired instead of opening myself up to more attacks from keyboard warriors.
#13
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No I do not know who you are. And my responses are not attacks on you but against people that make things personal instead of fact base. Agree to disagree and move on. It you want change go through the established channels and do it but we have had people make attacks against other people, personal attacks, and lie. No ethics, backbone or credibility.
My only point above is that Tony is not perfect, but he's definitely not the monster he is being painted as. Either way, I'd still like to see some fresh blood on the MEC instead of the same people who have been recycled to different positions for almost a decade. JMHO.
#14
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
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Quick to defend
Some of you think these are incorrect you must know his pay, why don't you post it and see if it matches what comes out from ALPA?
Rep said it Co confirmed it he changed his pay to much higher when he took office.
As far as the threats toward reps who don't agree the feds and Co have been notified and they know his tight knit group of IPs. Would be funny to see the IP and the Co sued again. Ohhh yeah are you going to deny the MEC chair caused a lawsuit for his actions in the sim? The pilot won. How childish to threaten someone's career because they don't agree with you on issues. 1 Good lawsuit toward the Co for on of these power hungry IPs could bring that whole dept crashing down. Back a few years ago at my previous 121 carrier the training dept was mostly Fos and JR captains it saved the Co millions.
If you are a rep, poll pilots call 10 random pilots an without prompting the tell them who is running for MEC chair, I bet not one says vote for an IP.
The reps also say they know for sure that TM and BF are the one leaking all the info to JB. Your MEC is being run by JB! What a way to communicate JB posting on message boards.
Someone will blast this but the truth hurts, its all factual. Look at those defending him.
Rep said it Co confirmed it he changed his pay to much higher when he took office.
As far as the threats toward reps who don't agree the feds and Co have been notified and they know his tight knit group of IPs. Would be funny to see the IP and the Co sued again. Ohhh yeah are you going to deny the MEC chair caused a lawsuit for his actions in the sim? The pilot won. How childish to threaten someone's career because they don't agree with you on issues. 1 Good lawsuit toward the Co for on of these power hungry IPs could bring that whole dept crashing down. Back a few years ago at my previous 121 carrier the training dept was mostly Fos and JR captains it saved the Co millions.
If you are a rep, poll pilots call 10 random pilots an without prompting the tell them who is running for MEC chair, I bet not one says vote for an IP.
The reps also say they know for sure that TM and BF are the one leaking all the info to JB. Your MEC is being run by JB! What a way to communicate JB posting on message boards.
Someone will blast this but the truth hurts, its all factual. Look at those defending him.
#15
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Joined APC: Feb 2016
Posts: 86
Some of you think these are incorrect you must know his pay, why don't you post it and see if it matches what comes out from ALPA?
Rep said it Co confirmed it he changed his pay to much higher when he took office.
As far as the threats toward reps who don't agree the feds and Co have been notified and they know his tight knit group of IPs. Would be funny to see the IP and the Co sued again. Ohhh yeah are you going to deny the MEC chair caused a lawsuit for his actions in the sim? The pilot won. How childish to threaten someone's career because they don't agree with you on issues. 1 Good lawsuit toward the Co for on of these power hungry IPs could bring that whole dept crashing down. Back a few years ago at my previous 121 carrier the training dept was mostly Fos and JR captains it saved the Co millions.
If you are a rep, poll pilots call 10 random pilots an without prompting the tell them who is running for MEC chair, I bet not one says vote for an IP.
The reps also say they know for sure that TM and BF are the one leaking all the info to JB. Your MEC is being run by JB! What a way to communicate JB posting on message boards.
Someone will blast this but the truth hurts, its all factual. Look at those defending him.
Rep said it Co confirmed it he changed his pay to much higher when he took office.
As far as the threats toward reps who don't agree the feds and Co have been notified and they know his tight knit group of IPs. Would be funny to see the IP and the Co sued again. Ohhh yeah are you going to deny the MEC chair caused a lawsuit for his actions in the sim? The pilot won. How childish to threaten someone's career because they don't agree with you on issues. 1 Good lawsuit toward the Co for on of these power hungry IPs could bring that whole dept crashing down. Back a few years ago at my previous 121 carrier the training dept was mostly Fos and JR captains it saved the Co millions.
If you are a rep, poll pilots call 10 random pilots an without prompting the tell them who is running for MEC chair, I bet not one says vote for an IP.
The reps also say they know for sure that TM and BF are the one leaking all the info to JB. Your MEC is being run by JB! What a way to communicate JB posting on message boards.
Someone will blast this but the truth hurts, its all factual. Look at those defending him.
#16
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Posts: 3
I refuse to sink to the level of ignorance that crjasa900 uses. The personal agenda is clear. While I stated that I thought it was from someone running against Tony for chair, I admit that I was wrong. The only people that are running against him are Sterling and Robert. They have more credibility and class to make these kind of chicken **** attacks. If you want to be taken seriously don't hide behind a keyboard using a false name. If you want to make stuff up and only impress yourself keep hiding. I stand behind everything I have done while being an MEC officer. I will gladly take part in a real conversation with any real person. If you want to keep throwing stones and attacking the people that are doing their best to improve the quality of life for LASA pilots, while hiding and using lies; then sorry I have the life you lack.
#18
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Facts
Lol since when did stating the truth become attacks. Admit it BF Tony raised his pay. you don't have the balls to admit it. Mnak...that blow hard lol he is the very reason there is no JCBA and o much flight pay loss abuse. I listened to him a rgt a few years ago all he did was state how we need to keep flightline and try to justif why 15 some pilots got 6 hours a day to sit n the office for years on end. He was the MEC chair worse x10. So you keep just sying they are personal agendas and attacks.....is questioning how much the ALPA chair makes an attack? I think its not in the unions best interest to hide behind the facts. If some jack wad is taking in 150k to -200k the pilots need to and will know about it.
#19
Next week the reps elect MEC officers. Be sure and call your reps with advice as to who should be in the offices. One thing for sure its time for change. An IP who has not flown the line in over 15 years has no business being MEC chair. Lets look at his record. He destroyed any hope of a relationship with XJT and Management neither party said they can work with him. He let XJT slip the flow with XJT pilots in after our vote. There were more IP issues addressed in the LOA than there was for the line pilot. He pays himself and his Exec Admin 130 hours plus each month. He threatens reps with failing their AQP if he doesn't get his way. The reps say he has been known to be on conference calls drunk. He regularly leaks info to JB to post on the web. XJT caught him red handed. There has got to be someone better out there. Those are the facts. The rumor is he works 10 am till 3 pm 3 days a week on average. Why are we paying this guy 150,000 a year?
Fact is there is a MEC election in the coming weeks and I would wager the vast majority of ASA pilots do not even know it. BFree, please email blast the group and announce this so us line cogs have time to contact their reps and express their desires.
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