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Old 03-13-2016 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by prex8390
AWAC numbers are wrong.
Thanks for you feedback. Please explain.

The numbers are correct, unless the numbers on APC are incorrect. If you know them to be incorrect, please get them updated on APC so everyone has the correct information. Thanks.

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Year 1 28 X 75 X 12 months = $25.2K
Year 2 41 X 75 X 12 months = $36.9K
Year 3. 42 X 75 X 12 months = $37.8K
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Old 03-13-2016 | 10:57 AM
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People think the numbers are incorrect because the bar chart isn't clear. The numbers in the bar should have a K next to it so that people don't think it's a pay rate. Also, you highlighted the AAG wholly owned but not the others.
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Old 03-13-2016 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
People think the numbers are incorrect because the bar chart isn't clear. The numbers in the bar should have a K next to it so that people don't think it's a pay rate....
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Old 03-13-2016 | 11:13 AM
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Here is a link to an older thread where someone created a spreadsheet computing TOTAL COMPENSATION taking into account different upgrade assumptions. Some of the data is now old though.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...es-glance.html

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...#gid=782421110

And here is a thread that had work rules for different regionals. Again, pretty outdated but would be useful to have this information updated for anyone to see.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...ns-please.html
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Old 03-13-2016 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Skyler02
Thanks for you feedback.

Again, Mesa numbers are correct. Here, I will do the math for you again:

Year 1 22 X 75 X 12 months = $19.8 + $2.5 bonus = $22.3K
Year 2 29 X 75 X 12 months = $26.1K
Year 3. 32 X 75 X 12 months = $28.8K
Hmm, except in my case, halfway into year 2, it was at a minimum of 55x75, and in year 3, 65x76X12, even more as I hold a line...

Yes, timing is everything, but OH am I so glad I didn't go anywhere else!
Today however, Endeavor would be even more money ahead just as an FO.
If money is not a priority for you, you either have enough already, or you're a fool.
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Old 03-13-2016 | 11:43 AM
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Anyone who cannot comprehend this chart may want to seek an alternative career, or at the very least, take a free online Excel class.

The numbers in the top chart are the annual salaries in thousands of dollars. The feed for that comes from the bottom chart, where the hourly rates reside.

Originally Posted by Nevets
People think the numbers are incorrect because the bar chart isn't clear. The numbers in the bar should have a K next to it so that people don't think it's a pay rate. Also, you highlighted the AAG wholly owned but not the others.
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Old 03-13-2016 | 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by HighFlight
Anyone who cannot comprehend this chart may want to seek an alternative career, or at the very least, take a free online Excel class.

The numbers in the top chart are the annual salaries in thousands of dollars. The feed for that comes from the bottom chart, where the hourly rates reside.
This.

Thank you.

Please read the title at the top of the chart in big letters:

REGIONAL FO ANNUAL COMPENSATION SUMMARY IN $000's

The secondary title then explains that it is:
Hourly Rate x 75 HR Guarantee + Bonuses.

However, since there is confusion for some, when I do the next update I will take that into consideration.

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Old 03-13-2016 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by OneInTheMirror
Thank you for posting this Skyler - I was really hoping someone would make a nice easy summary of all these Reigonals on here.
You're welcome. I'm glad you found it useful. I will try to keep it updated going forward. The good news is, improvements to compensation are happening quickly enough that it is a challenge to keep it updated. And THAT is good news for all of us.

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Old 03-13-2016 | 04:46 PM
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I decided to take a stab at this using the latest contract updates and the new hiring bonuses. All numbers are based on actual minimum guarantee. All numbers include hiring bonuses and retention pay. Sorted by first year pay.

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Old 03-13-2016 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Skyler02
This.

Thank you.

Please read the title at the top of the chart in big letters:

REGIONAL FO ANNUAL COMPENSATION SUMMARY IN $000's

The secondary title then explains that it is:
Hourly Rate x 75 HR Guarantee + Bonuses.

However, since there is confusion for some, when I do the next update I will take that into consideration.

Why do you highlight the AA wholly owners and not the others?
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