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Old 03-22-2016, 06:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt View Post
"I've got your flow."
-Doug Parker



Geez you're annoying. You must be a real treat to fly with. Why is the flow so important to you if you don't work here nor do you have any intention of working here?
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:17 AM
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:26 AM
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My comment WAS about the subject matter. You are so critical about the flow when the flow is the only reason you are not flying an envoy regional jet right now. I find it ironic that someone has so much animosity about something that he has benefited so much from.
The "flow" is fine, it's the PROMISES and CLAIMS regarding its timing that are the issue.

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As is usually the case, YOU are trying to make this about YOU. No one else cares enough about you to make this about YOU. Maybe if you had people out there in the "REAL 3D WORLD" in your life, you wouldn't care if a bunch of anonymous pilots behind screennames cared about you or not.
This is laughable, absolutely laughable coming from the member most obsessed about me. I post on other non-Envoy threads and discuss the ISSUES, not "eaglefly", but you (and others) always make it about me. The post content proves it 100%. Don't worry, I have no plans to be R-U-N-N-O-F-T by you or your clan, which is your goal. The other goal is to......
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:30 AM
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......try and reshape reality there to fantasy so that others become this cute little fella that you have been and are now committed to be, thus maximizing the speed of your shuffle down the old dirt trail to the shimmering water hole that is supposed to be AA, while they take your place.
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Old 03-22-2016, 06:36 AM
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The most recent flows from PSA were 2005 hires, (11 years at PSA). As I seem to recall, the most recent flows from Envoy had 13 -15 years at Envoy. Just sayin'.

I hope we all realize that none of the pilots who have flowed to American accepted jobs at PSA or Envoy or Piedmont with any idea that a flow would ever exist. They didn't plan their career progression based on flow. You should not plan YOUR career progression based on flow either.

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Old 03-22-2016, 06:52 AM
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The most recent flows from PSA were 2005 hires, (11 years at PSA). As I seem to recall, the most recent flows from Envoy had 13 -15 years at Envoy. Just sayin'.
Well, Envoy has DOH gaps that will soon bring their flows down to much closer DOH's seen at the other WO's. Barring anything not yet announced though, the flow will stop for all for at least several months and possibly into early next year if 400 come back. During that period, Envoy's attrition will slow, which is good for Envoy, but not so good for their pilots as it means less movement, especially off the top, which is what generates the most upgrades.

The latter half of this year could be a particularly distressing stretch for poor Charlie Bucket, unless of course he can get into one of those shiny mini-Airbuses which would soften the bumps a little like the union leadership is maneuvering themselves in (out of seniority, I hear).
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2.) American decides to add a new rung to the career ladder by saying anyone who wants to work at American MUST go through one of their wholly owned regionals no exceptions. That would mean that a pilot working at a carrier such as Republic would have to quit Republic and go to work for PSA, Envoy, or PDT.

This. Why doesn't AA just make flow the only way to get hired at mainline? Seems like you would more easily keep your regional feed alive, while recruiting from a know pilot source (those already doing the job under AA colors).
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2.) American decides to add a new rung to the career ladder by saying anyone who wants to work at American MUST go through one of their wholly owned regionals no exceptions. That would mean that a pilot working at a carrier such as Republic would have to quit Republic and go to work for PSA, Envoy, or PDT.
This. Why doesn't AA just make flow the only way to get hired at mainline? Seems like you would more easily keep your regional feed alive, while recruiting from a know pilot source (those already doing the job under AA colors).

Because, after all, keeping the regional industry alive at the expense of other pilots is a good thing, right??

Little doubt AA WH'd pilots would love this little gem, cutting out anyone who is more qualified than they are.


I'll support Doug Parker's ponzi scheme as long as I can benefit from it.
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....cutting out anyone who is more qualified than they are.

Oh, now I get it. You're entitled. Now your posts make more sense.
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Old 03-22-2016, 10:09 AM
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This doesn't represent the AA Flow. It represents the entire airline industry. There can only be so many 777 Captains.

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