MrStl

This is an interesting thread.

Skywest has been hiring 100 per month, 65 CRJ and 35 ERJ. Their seniority has increased by less than 200 in the last 6 months. They are losing almost 60 a month.

Who is going to fly all those planes they have coming?

Everyone is missing the lesson to be learned. In 1982 there were lots of DC-9-10s out there which held 70 to 90 people and pay for a captain was about 125 per hour and 60 for an FO. Taking into account inflation the pay for a pilot for the smaller jets is down by about 82% over the last 33 years. One regional just spent 4 years negotiating a new contract and obtained a 7% raise for captains, about 1.5% per year. They didn't even keep up with inflation. All you guys talk about is first year pay and a path to the majors. All the majors talk to themselves about is how smart they are getting you guys to only talk about first year pay and keeping the discussion of pay increases for the rest of the pilots down to about zero merely by waiving around a little possible flow and preferential interviews.

iFlyRC

I think Delta is trying for a 40% pay increase, and that only brings them back to what year? 2004 pay? Mainline has taken huge paycuts from where they used to be if you go back to the 60's and 70's.
The regionals are a separate matter, can't blame the regional guys for everything

Majerus

There are a lot of CFIs in the new hire classes.

daOldMan

If it weren't for the mainline guys selling scope, the regionals would not exist and all of the current regional pilots would be at mainline.

You can thank your fathers and grandfathers generation of pilots for creating the regionals.

SayAlt

No. You can thank airline deregulation and those responsible for it.

See: the last sentence in the 3rd para. in the Introduction...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airline_deregulation*

(*Cited for ease)

daOldMan

Wikipedia. Always a good source. About as accurate as APC.

SayAlt

In this case, it is accurate. And there is a lot of very good and accurate information here on APC, too. Of course, Debate For Losers 101 dictates that when you can't attack the data one should attack the source. So, way to go.

MD11

Deregulation, baby boomers etc... All wrong

As long as you keep showing up for your table scraps, nothing will change.

SayAlt

If only it were that simple. But it's not.

How were the scraps when you showed up and ate them?

Xtreme87

Umm did you just come to America? That is happening all over the country and all over the world. Greed is destroying the middle class. It's happening across all industries. CEO's are taking bigger bonuses, while drving wages down. Pretty soon they will have outsourced as much as they can, and there will be just one big ghetto left here and nobody with a decent paying job. So you can thank whatever status quo wallstreet owned scumbag that is "voted" into office. The race to the bottom ain't gonna be stopped with us sitting on our asses, doing nothing.