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Old 04-16-2016 | 07:30 AM
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What about Compass new hires? Anyone have any info there?
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Old 04-16-2016 | 07:40 AM
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Skywest has 3900 pilots. #3400 was hired last October. #2900 was hired January of 2015.

You also need to add in 10-20 a month that don't make it through training or quit for another job within the first year or so.
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Old 04-16-2016 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Is offline
The interview guys said they are shying away from guys just looking for their 121 gateway to a major. There were a lot of mil guys that just finished IOE and bounced.
Something quite poetic about a company hiring exploitees, and being exploited at the same time, by the mil guys.
Good on the mil guys for doing it!
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Old 04-16-2016 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Majerus
There are a lot of CFIs in the new hire classes.
That in its self is pure genius, from and by the geniuses who created the pilot shortage in the first place. Let's see what happens when we hire and remove the very people who create the pilots they need to staff their airlines. Making popcorn from their seed corn. The level of retardation is astounding, but yet, oddly, not suprising.
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Old 04-16-2016 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt
If only it were that simple. But it's not.

How were the scraps when you showed up and ate them?
They weren't good. After several years of no improvement, I exited to corporate flight.
If the airline industry improves, I will be at the front of the line to jump back.
In the meantime... today I have to figure if I want to fly my plane or ride one of my two motorcycles.
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Old 04-16-2016 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SayAlt




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What about Compass new hires? Anyone have any info there?
60 people since Feb 15th. Classes from 4-10 every week.
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Old 04-16-2016 | 01:35 PM
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a key metric is how many of these new hires are CFIs with 1500hrs or how many are higher time switching from other companies or military or ex 121 coming back?

if it is the low timers, then there really is a supply problem, but if they are mostly high time pilots then it seems like people are chasing who currently has the best deal and short up grade times.
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Old 04-16-2016 | 01:57 PM
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Been hearing that a lot of the new hires in a lot of places are 40 to 50 +...
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Old 04-16-2016 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
Been hearing that a lot of the new hires in a lot of places are 40 to 50 +...
There are quite a few FOs with grey hair at Mesa.

One guy in my class last year was 57.
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Old 04-16-2016 | 04:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom
Something quite poetic about a company hiring exploitees, and being exploited at the same time, by the mil guys.
Good on the mil guys for doing it!
Good for them in getting legit 121 exp, but I will say this.

Ill be 100% honest and tell you what 90% everyone else is too scared to say. It really ****es me off the argument MIL guys are better than Reg pilots. Heres why. For the record, I personally, know how i feel anout the military. My thoughts/views are my own. I could care less what anyone thinks about me. I will say this.

What do RJ pilots do every single F'n day? Thats right they fly into the SAME hubs, carrying the SAME F'n passengers from podunk USA to connect to NYC, LAX and every other major US Metropolitan for the legacies.

Heres whats idiotic. Do you honestly think any competent RJ CA, or senior competent RJ FO, is going to fail out of newhire training at mainline? A VAST majority = Hell no. They do the same god damn job!!!!! They only damn thing they are learning is a bigger plane and new company FOM and procedures. Yet certain legacies (cough cough Delta) have a raging hardon to hire military over an RJ guy who does the same job.

I realize this will be a moot point with the number of retirements soon, but it is crazy how, somehow, military jocks have such a tremendously better skill set than guys doing the same exact job, all intents and purpose.
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