Republic or PSA?
09-17-2017, 02:06 PM
#11
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Well, you asked.... "Now tell me what you see?"
I really don't care if the President comes into our class, I would rather him spend his/her time doing President stuff.
PSA took very excellent care of their pilots during Irma, me included.
I interviewed at Republic. Seemed a decent enough place, I didn't come here to bash it. Original poster asked Rjet vs PSA. PSA has SAP Rjet does not, end of story. All that talk and you never answered "how long has Rjet supposed to have been getting SAP now?"
If you remember 14.50 an hour you also remember Rjet filing bankruptcy with money in the bank and totally screwing over their stock holders. Actions speak louder than a million words.
PSA upgrades are as soon as you can hit 1000 hours 121. Wax poetic all you want 121 PIC is 121 PIC. You can have your industry leading F/O pay for four years while I'm making Captain pay year two.
A regional is a regional is a regional, get in, get as much money as you can, get PIC as fast as you can and get out. Anyone not doing that is fooling themselves until they fall to the back swing of the whip saw. Meanwhile, while you here doing your time, make your quality of life as best as you can make it and there is hands down no better quality of life tool than SAP.
Sure we all need pilots. Currently last I knew PSA is backlogged 6 months for new hires.
Best of luck.
I really don't care if the President comes into our class, I would rather him spend his/her time doing President stuff.
PSA took very excellent care of their pilots during Irma, me included.
I interviewed at Republic. Seemed a decent enough place, I didn't come here to bash it. Original poster asked Rjet vs PSA. PSA has SAP Rjet does not, end of story. All that talk and you never answered "how long has Rjet supposed to have been getting SAP now?"
If you remember 14.50 an hour you also remember Rjet filing bankruptcy with money in the bank and totally screwing over their stock holders. Actions speak louder than a million words.
PSA upgrades are as soon as you can hit 1000 hours 121. Wax poetic all you want 121 PIC is 121 PIC. You can have your industry leading F/O pay for four years while I'm making Captain pay year two.
A regional is a regional is a regional, get in, get as much money as you can, get PIC as fast as you can and get out. Anyone not doing that is fooling themselves until they fall to the back swing of the whip saw. Meanwhile, while you here doing your time, make your quality of life as best as you can make it and there is hands down no better quality of life tool than SAP.
Sure we all need pilots. Currently last I knew PSA is backlogged 6 months for new hires.
Best of luck.
09-17-2017, 02:29 PM
#12
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PSA's SAP is quite different than anyone else's SAP in the industry. There are ZERO (read: none, zip, nadda, zilch) restrictions other than those imposed by FAR117.
Want holidays off? Done. Want to be able to make that important dinner your significant other is begging you to be at? Done. Kids t-ball game? Done. Birthdays, family reunion, and parents visiting all in the same month? Done. Sundays off so you can watch football? Done. 18-19 days off next month so you can relax or work on that home project? Done. Want to take a couple weeks off in a row and go to Europe with your friends or significant other without using your vacation time? Done. Want to be off almost a month straight using your vacation time and SAP? Done. I could go on... But I think you get it.
I'll be the first to deny that things aren't always peachy here at PSA. But I'll never deny that my quality of life is second to none in the regional industry. I tell mainline pilots about our SAP if they ask and they wonder, "Why don't we have that"!?
All that said, I know a couple people at Republic who are pretty content and enjoying their time there. I still vote PSA as long as it's no commute/easy commute. But neither are a bad option.
Want holidays off? Done. Want to be able to make that important dinner your significant other is begging you to be at? Done. Kids t-ball game? Done. Birthdays, family reunion, and parents visiting all in the same month? Done. Sundays off so you can watch football? Done. 18-19 days off next month so you can relax or work on that home project? Done. Want to take a couple weeks off in a row and go to Europe with your friends or significant other without using your vacation time? Done. Want to be off almost a month straight using your vacation time and SAP? Done. I could go on... But I think you get it.
I'll be the first to deny that things aren't always peachy here at PSA. But I'll never deny that my quality of life is second to none in the regional industry. I tell mainline pilots about our SAP if they ask and they wonder, "Why don't we have that"!?
All that said, I know a couple people at Republic who are pretty content and enjoying their time there. I still vote PSA as long as it's no commute/easy commute. But neither are a bad option.
09-17-2017, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by PleaseComplete
Well, you asked.... "Now tell me what you see?"
I really don't care if the President comes into our class, I would rather him spend his/her time doing President stuff.
PSA took very excellent care of their pilots during Irma, me included.
I interviewed at Republic. Seemed a decent enough place, I didn't come here to bash it. Original poster asked Rjet vs PSA. PSA has SAP Rjet does not, end of story. All that talk and you never answered "how long has Rjet supposed to have been getting SAP now?"
If you remember 14.50 an hour you also remember Rjet filing bankruptcy with money in the bank and totally screwing over their stock holders. Actions speak louder than a million words.
PSA upgrades are as soon as you can hit 1000 hours 121. Wax poetic all you want 121 PIC is 121 PIC. You can have your industry leading F/O pay for four years while I'm making Captain pay year two.
A regional is a regional is a regional, get in, get as much money as you can, get PIC as fast as you can and get out. Anyone not doing that is fooling themselves until they fall to the back swing of the whip saw. Meanwhile, while you here doing your time, make your quality of life as best as you can make it and there is hands down no better quality of life tool than SAP.
Sure we all need pilots. Currently last I knew PSA is backlogged 6 months for new hires.
Best of luck.
I really don't care if the President comes into our class, I would rather him spend his/her time doing President stuff.
PSA took very excellent care of their pilots during Irma, me included.
I interviewed at Republic. Seemed a decent enough place, I didn't come here to bash it. Original poster asked Rjet vs PSA. PSA has SAP Rjet does not, end of story. All that talk and you never answered "how long has Rjet supposed to have been getting SAP now?"
If you remember 14.50 an hour you also remember Rjet filing bankruptcy with money in the bank and totally screwing over their stock holders. Actions speak louder than a million words.
PSA upgrades are as soon as you can hit 1000 hours 121. Wax poetic all you want 121 PIC is 121 PIC. You can have your industry leading F/O pay for four years while I'm making Captain pay year two.
A regional is a regional is a regional, get in, get as much money as you can, get PIC as fast as you can and get out. Anyone not doing that is fooling themselves until they fall to the back swing of the whip saw. Meanwhile, while you here doing your time, make your quality of life as best as you can make it and there is hands down no better quality of life tool than SAP.
Sure we all need pilots. Currently last I knew PSA is backlogged 6 months for new hires.
Best of luck.
Second, regarding your comment about the stockholders, one of the big reasons the middle class of America is eroding is that companies are too worried about pleasing stockholders every quarter instead of planning for the long term success of the company. If the company I work for is more concerned with pleasing the stockholders instead of the long term success of the company, well then you have a problem if you are an employee there.
09-17-2017, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
A couple of bones to pick about your post. Meeting your new recruits, I.e. The future of the company, is leadership 101. If PSA's president is just sitting in his office all day, that is a horrible leader who has no idea of what the pulse of his company is.
Second, regarding your comment about the stockholders, one of the big reasons the middle class of America is eroding is that companies are too worried about pleasing stockholders every quarter instead of planning for the long term success of the company. If the company I work for is more concerned with pleasing the stockholders instead of the long term success of the company, well then you have a problem if you are an employee there.
Second, regarding your comment about the stockholders, one of the big reasons the middle class of America is eroding is that companies are too worried about pleasing stockholders every quarter instead of planning for the long term success of the company. If the company I work for is more concerned with pleasing the stockholders instead of the long term success of the company, well then you have a problem if you are an employee there.
09-18-2017, 06:51 AM
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Once again Republic HAS SAP.
To my LIMITED knowledge only PSA AND REPUBLIC have SAP.
It does not seem to have hurt anyone at this point.
I say coorperate ( what can we learn from each other) and make it better for all of us.
Good luck.
To my LIMITED knowledge only PSA AND REPUBLIC have SAP.
It does not seem to have hurt anyone at this point.
I say coorperate ( what can we learn from each other) and make it better for all of us.
Good luck.
09-18-2017, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by ironmanndfw
Once again Republic HAS SAP.
To my LIMITED knowledge only PSA AND REPUBLIC have SAP.
It does not seem to have hurt anyone at this point.
I say coorperate ( what can we learn from each other) and make it better for all of us.
Good luck.
To my LIMITED knowledge only PSA AND REPUBLIC have SAP.
It does not seem to have hurt anyone at this point.
I say coorperate ( what can we learn from each other) and make it better for all of us.
Good luck.
09-18-2017, 07:16 AM
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ChrisReed we have known each other for years now. I would venture to state that you know better than I about the SAP programs at both companies, at this point. Then again, that may be why you posted the question.
You will never get me to say that PSA is not a good company. I flat refuse to belive it. You will get me to say that Rjet HAS HAD problems, yet they understand that and are moving forward.
To my LIMITED KNOWLEDGE PSA is the only current carrier who has SAP IMPLEMENTED. SAP alone is not enough to make one choose to go to PSA. It sure does help and that is why Rjet is adding SAP. One more useful tool.
Endeavor, Air Wis, SkyWest, Envoy, Peidmont does not have SAP to my knowledge and they recruit just fine. So there must be something beyond SAP that make people go elsewhere.
What is that and what can companies do or add to keep the pipelines flowing?
I will fully admit it would help if Rjet increaded its referral bonuses to pilots. They bumpped it form $2-3K too $4K just recently. How baout double that or better? Sign on bonus of $10K is at the lowest end. That may need to be trippled or added to the salary at some $30-45 an hour increase (double).
How about lets work together as pilot groups so that we all can increase or position in the industry, and make it a decent place to be if one chooses to stay in the Regionals.
I'm new to the 121 world yet not to 91,91K, 135 or the industry. Now is the time like no other.
Let us all (pilot groups) Carpe Diem.
You will never get me to say that PSA is not a good company. I flat refuse to belive it. You will get me to say that Rjet HAS HAD problems, yet they understand that and are moving forward.
To my LIMITED KNOWLEDGE PSA is the only current carrier who has SAP IMPLEMENTED. SAP alone is not enough to make one choose to go to PSA. It sure does help and that is why Rjet is adding SAP. One more useful tool.
Endeavor, Air Wis, SkyWest, Envoy, Peidmont does not have SAP to my knowledge and they recruit just fine. So there must be something beyond SAP that make people go elsewhere.
What is that and what can companies do or add to keep the pipelines flowing?
I will fully admit it would help if Rjet increaded its referral bonuses to pilots. They bumpped it form $2-3K too $4K just recently. How baout double that or better? Sign on bonus of $10K is at the lowest end. That may need to be trippled or added to the salary at some $30-45 an hour increase (double).
How about lets work together as pilot groups so that we all can increase or position in the industry, and make it a decent place to be if one chooses to stay in the Regionals.
I'm new to the 121 world yet not to 91,91K, 135 or the industry. Now is the time like no other.
Let us all (pilot groups) Carpe Diem.
09-18-2017, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheWeatherman
A couple of bones to pick about your post. Meeting your new recruits, I.e. The future of the company, is leadership 101. If PSA's president is just sitting in his office all day, that is a horrible leader who has no idea of what the pulse of his company is.
Second, regarding your comment about the stockholders, one of the big reasons the middle class of America is eroding is that companies are too worried about pleasing stockholders every quarter instead of planning for the long term success of the company. If the company I work for is more concerned with pleasing the stockholders instead of the long term success of the company, well then you have a problem if you are an employee there.
Second, regarding your comment about the stockholders, one of the big reasons the middle class of America is eroding is that companies are too worried about pleasing stockholders every quarter instead of planning for the long term success of the company. If the company I work for is more concerned with pleasing the stockholders instead of the long term success of the company, well then you have a problem if you are an employee there.
So if I drive my truck into a mud hole, instead of figuring out how to jack it up, put wood under the tires, get a winch or a buddy to pull me out - I'll just say *&^$ it and leave the truck there, wasn't any good anyway !
Question - did you ever stop and wonder how out of all the airlines that operate 50 seaters that Rjet is the only one that couldn't do it profitably ? You really want to put blind faith into leadership/management that is the only regional incapable of operating 50 seaters profitably? 
I can beat ya'll up all day on this but that is not why I came here. He asked, I answered. Don't ask if you don't want the answers.PSA has SAP.
and yes it is THAT good.
09-18-2017, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ironmanndfw
To my LIMITED KNOWLEDGE PSA is the only current carrier who has SAP IMPLEMENTED. SAP alone is not enough to make one choose to go to PSA. It sure does help and that is why Rjet is adding SAP. One more useful tool.
Endeavor, Air Wis, SkyWest, Envoy, Peidmont does not have SAP to my knowledge and they recruit just fine. So there must be something beyond SAP that make people go elsewhere.
Endeavor, Air Wis, SkyWest, Envoy, Peidmont does not have SAP to my knowledge and they recruit just fine. So there must be something beyond SAP that make people go elsewhere.
(to be clear, not calling you ignorant - its a saying...)
I had a very healthy skepticism about how great SAP is when I was trying to pick a regional. I had offers from OO, Rjet, Endeavor and PSA. I stopped interviewing after that. I took a chance and in my mind a big chance that SAP is as good as they said it was and chose PSA.
SAP is that good.
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