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Old 11-03-2018 | 09:32 AM
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If you are interested in any of the DC carriers BNA is very easy to commute out of. I’m EDV and commuted out of BNA for awhile before I moved and it was no hassle. Plus our commuter policy says if you give yourself two flight options and dont make the first you get positive space on the second flight if its DL and thats unlimited no questions asked.

Pay is also very nice can’t ignore that.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyjay342
If you are interested in any of the DC carriers BNA is very easy to commute out of. I’m EDV and commuted out of BNA for awhile before I moved and it was no hassle. Plus our commuter policy says if you give yourself two flight options and dont make the first you get positive space on the second flight if its DL and thats unlimited no questions asked.

Pay is also very nice can’t ignore that.
Other than pay, why the hell would anyone want to go to EDV right now? Overstaffed offering TOWOP for the next ??? months on top of already seemingly endless amount of time on rsv. The extra few bux an hour aren't worth that nonsense. I'd rather be flying with the opportunity to go over min guarantee and hold a line than sit around waiting for the growth that's been promised over there that clearly doesn't exist.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Jungle Jim
Other than pay, why the hell would anyone want to go to EDV right now? Overstaffed offering TOWOP for the next ??? months on top of already seemingly endless amount of time on rsv. The extra few bux an hour aren't worth that nonsense. I'd rather be flying with the opportunity to go over min guarantee and hold a line than sit around waiting for the growth that's been promised over there that clearly doesn't exist.
Doesn’t Republic have months of training delays? Why would anyone want to go be on the back of a hiring wave while sitting reserve in some outstation. Republics “growth” doesn’t clearly exist either considering scope limits that majors have.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
Doesn’t Republic have months of training delays? Why would anyone want to go be on the back of a hiring wave while sitting reserve in some outstation. Republics “growth” doesn’t clearly exist either considering scope limits that majors have.
Back end of a hiring wave? What makes you think this hiring will stop any time soon? It's going to get worse before it gets better, everywhere.

Training delay is an issue, currently about 2.5 months, but we are paid min guarantee after first 30 days. It could be a lot worse.

Reserve times are pretty short at everywhere but EWR and DCA, and both are shorter than EDV. I think someone starting now at EDV sitting reserve for a year with no training delay will fly less than a YX pilot with a 2.5 month delay, but will hold a line 2-3 months after IOE.

Growth is uncertain, but there is room for some growth at AA if they optimize the 170s as "small RJs." I'd rather be at YX than just about anywhere else in the regional market when it comes to stability and growth potential at the expense of other regionals.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by KelvinHelmholtz
Doesn’t Republic have months of training delays? Why would anyone want to go be on the back of a hiring wave while sitting reserve in some outstation. Republics “growth” doesn’t clearly exist either considering scope limits that majors have.
Well let's see...what would you rather do? Go to Republic where they bring you in, tell the truth about the training delay, start accruing seniority, get sent home allowed to do outside flying while getting paid your min guarantee, then very likely be able to hold at least a composite by the time you get out of training to the line.

OR you could go to EDV, where the training delay is even longer, they don't start paying you until your class date comes up, then once you finally get out of training the better part of a year forward from your CJO, you're going to be rotting away in a basement at JFK or LGA sitting ready reserve flying occasionally if at all.

That's not even considering Republic vs Endeavor work rules.

I'm 6 weeks outside of training, live in a hub base, and have 80 hours of real flying in November - not a single day of reserve. That may not be the typical or average experience, but I can't complain. Oh and I'll never have to sit ready reserve in my career here because Republic.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jungle Jim
Well let's see...what would you rather do? Go to Republic where they bring you in, tell the truth about the training delay, start accruing seniority, get sent home allowed to do outside flying while getting paid your min guarantee, then very likely be able to hold at least a composite by the time you get out of training to the line.



OR you could go to EDV, where the training delay is even longer, they don't start paying you until your class date comes up, then once you finally get out of training the better part of a year forward from your CJO, you're going to be rotting away in a basement at JFK or LGA sitting ready reserve flying occasionally if at all.



That's not even considering Republic vs Endeavor work rules.



I'm 6 weeks outside of training, live in a hub base, and have 80 hours of real flying in November - not a single day of reserve. That may not be the typical or average experience, but I can't complain. Oh and I'll never have to sit ready reserve in my career here because Republic.


Finished OE in August. Four days of reserve. Total. Held a line September, October, November.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 07:09 PM
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You guys are making me regret going to EDV... I agonized over that decision for months.
I was told to expect *maybe* one month of commuting to sit reserve before I could (move to and) hold DTW.

I should have moved to one of RPA's cheaper Cost of living bases instead, and went with them. I wouldn't have had to commute, and reserve time would have been in weeks or days, not the 7-9 months i'll be looking at now that Delta has delayed the supposed "growth" that was supposed to happen.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by BeatsWorking
Finished OE in August. Four days of reserve. Total. Held a line September, October, November.
We have the same number of total reserve days!
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Old 11-03-2018 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by blindfayth
You guys are making me regret going to EDV... I agonized over that decision for months.
I was told to expect *maybe* one month of commuting to sit reserve before I could (move to and) hold DTW.

I should have moved to one of RPA's cheaper Cost of living bases instead, and went with them. I wouldn't have had to commute, and reserve time would have been in weeks or days, not the 7-9 months i'll be looking at now that Delta has delayed the supposed "growth" that was supposed to happen.


We all had the same options, just made a different choice. It’s very individualized. There’s no secret recipe. I went Republic because of bases, the plane, and my career outlook.

I looked at EDV carefully, I just didn't think it fit me as well as YX. And I didn't want to wear the hat.

Which one of us has the better chance of working at a major someday? Today, I'd say you. Your reserve sentence might payoff big down the road.
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Old 11-03-2018 | 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by blindfayth
You guys are making me regret going to EDV... I agonized over that decision for months.
I was told to expect *maybe* one month of commuting to sit reserve before I could (move to and) hold DTW.

I should have moved to one of RPA's cheaper Cost of living bases instead, and went with them. I wouldn't have had to commute, and reserve time would have been in weeks or days, not the 7-9 months i'll be looking at now that Delta has delayed the supposed "growth" that was supposed to happen.
Welcome to the regionals. In the recent past pilots sat reserve for years and years at regional wages never making more than about $30,000-$35,000 /year. It’s all about perspective.
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