Reduced Flying
#51
Currently Furloughed
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Position: C172 Captain
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#52
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#53
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#54
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Position: It's a plane and it's a seat
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Not at UA, you furlough from the bottom up. It makes a furlough quite expensive. There are other provisions too. Pulling seats out of 76 seaters, block hour ratios and any 76 operators have to hire furloughed UA pilots
#55
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How would that work tho for regionals that operate 76 seaters for multiple codeshares? Would said furloughed pilots only operate united painted aircraft at the regionals that fly for United American and Delta? (Republic and Skywest come to mine pretty quick).
#56
There is really no point in talking about it because it WON’T happen. That is a bold statement that I would normally never make, but the numbers speak for themselves...
Feb 2020 block hours vs 2019
AA 28,459 (2020) vs 26,116 (2019)... 8.9% increase YOY
DL 15,152 (2020) vs 10,197 (2019)... 48.59% increase YOY
UA 21,730 (2020) vs 20,538 (2019)... 5.8% increase YOY
Total 65,341 (2020) vs 56,851 (2019)... +8,490 Hr or a 14.93% Increase for Feb 2020 vs Feb 2019.
So we have seen a total of a 5% decrease to United... We are still .8% higher than last year using Feb numbers which is a slow month typically. Even if we lost some DL and AA block hours, the additional DL frames will still drive the DL side up overall. What we will see is a drop in aircraft useage compared to what we have been averaging the last year. I’m ok with that.
***To put this into perspective, our seniority list has grown by 42 people since February 2019. We have added 17 aircraft to the fleet and have increased block hours by at least 8,500hrs. Our staffing levels have been stretched thin because of this. All this reduction has given us is less opportunity for 200% flying and the ability to go back to actually adjusting our schedules like we could in early 2019.***
Our CEO has specifically said they are not canceling or throttling back hiring at all. It's still full steam ahead because we still have 13 planes that will need to be staffed between now and July. We also have to start hiring for new deliveries next year unless those are replacement planes, which I doubt they are.
Feb 2020 block hours vs 2019
AA 28,459 (2020) vs 26,116 (2019)... 8.9% increase YOY
DL 15,152 (2020) vs 10,197 (2019)... 48.59% increase YOY
UA 21,730 (2020) vs 20,538 (2019)... 5.8% increase YOY
Total 65,341 (2020) vs 56,851 (2019)... +8,490 Hr or a 14.93% Increase for Feb 2020 vs Feb 2019.
So we have seen a total of a 5% decrease to United... We are still .8% higher than last year using Feb numbers which is a slow month typically. Even if we lost some DL and AA block hours, the additional DL frames will still drive the DL side up overall. What we will see is a drop in aircraft useage compared to what we have been averaging the last year. I’m ok with that.
***To put this into perspective, our seniority list has grown by 42 people since February 2019. We have added 17 aircraft to the fleet and have increased block hours by at least 8,500hrs. Our staffing levels have been stretched thin because of this. All this reduction has given us is less opportunity for 200% flying and the ability to go back to actually adjusting our schedules like we could in early 2019.***
Our CEO has specifically said they are not canceling or throttling back hiring at all. It's still full steam ahead because we still have 13 planes that will need to be staffed between now and July. We also have to start hiring for new deliveries next year unless those are replacement planes, which I doubt they are.
You are for a very bad rude awakening.
By the way, never trust that CEO of yours.
#57
The market will be back to where it was or at least start trending up again once cases plateau, which will happen. The change in CDC procedures in testing for COVID 19 will cause an increase in cases then plateau as everything stabilizes. This has been reported, but not nearly as widely reported as the fear mongering that generates clicks and views.
Yes this has a higher mortality and infectious rate than other strains of the cornavirus, but for a smaller demographic.
Yes this has a higher mortality and infectious rate than other strains of the cornavirus, but for a smaller demographic.
The thing didn’t even hit US yet full force.
#58
Talked to someone today who interviewed last week and received a CJO today for a July 14th class date. Company is still interviewing and hiring and planning classes and evidently multiple offers and class dates went out today. I would go with that until they’re not. And as of now, management has flat out said this is the plan.
I was spring 2008 class
Upgrade was 9 months of you were ok with corpus CRJ captain seat.
They told us 800 new hires that year and many upgrades.
Two months later I got my furlough notice.
#59
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Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 351
Take the tinfoil hat off. It’ll hit the US the same way the flu hits. And in a couple months when the media has something else to obsess over we’ll all be back to complaining about the inability to drop and how understaffed we are.
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