BrewCity

The fact that a Republic pilot has paid a fee for AA nonrevenue travel for him and his family is not at all relevant to Jumpseating. If an OAL pilot wants to travel as a non rev on AA he purchases a ZED fare.

Gone Flying

Yes, that is how it works. They do more work on behalf of United than you do

since you refuse to think they should be given any priority over OAL on your metal, you are cool with them treating you as OAL on their AE flights, right?

vdsteelman

If it’s not at all relevant than why can’t we list as FDJ AAC? If I don’t pay for the benefits then yes, I’ll list as a D6 and roll the dice.

Longhornmaniac8

Unfortunately, this is what it boils down to. The current agreement is not reciprocal.

Option 1: Give Republic, Skywest, and Mesa a priority bump on AAG flights above only offline carriers. They will remain below AAG pilots on all AAG flights. This has no net impact to AAG pilots.

Option 2: Lower AAG pilots to time-of-check-in on Republic flights the way we currently are on theirs. This *will* impact AAG pilots.

From my perspective, this seems like a total no-brainer, which is what makes this all so strange.

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Gone Flying

I don’t work for republic or AA, but as an outsider I cannot understand or get a straight answer from an AA pilot on why they feel entitled to priority on your JS but cannot fathom extending that same priority to your (or Skywest’s or Mesa’s) pilot group. If anyone wants to defend the position taken by APA I’m all ears

amberdash

As they should... Republic pilots support the United operation. That AA pilot does not.

Seriously though how do people not understand this? Republic pilots support United. Why shouldn’t they have priority over American. Republic pilots support Delta, why shouldn’t they have priority over United? It’s very simple.

And this whole “republic pilots shouldn’t have priority on multiple airlines” sentiment is absolutely moronic. We DON’T have priority. We can still get bumped by anyone or any of their pass travelers on their own metal. So we just continue without a reciprocal agreement at AA because someone there thinks it isn’t fair Republic pilots have higher priority on United and Delta than AA pilots? Give me a break.

AverageCoffee

The Republic pilots are clutching pearls as if American pilots walk up to “Delta Flight XYZ operated by Republic Airline” and somehow get priority on that jumpseat. We do not it would be First Come First Serve OAL with the rest of the chucks sitting at the gate.

Here’s a little perk RAH pilots aren’t telling you. When an American flight is operated by RAH, Republic employees go to the very top of the non rev list. In front of D1 or D2 American employees. I know Delta doesn’t give them the same. Without diving into the standby code weeds, they become S3 Date of Hire instead of the usual S3C.

American pays for all logistics that goes into a Republic flight ie the fuel, the agents, the load agents, ticket system on and on etc etc so mercy me if American employees get priority in some aspects.

I can’t tell you why the jumpseat agreement was written the way it was however at some point in time it was agreed upon and signed by both unions. Crying about the terms and wanting it changed now is eye roll inducing.

But go right ahead, give it a go. Best of luck.

sanicom3205

“Their” AE flights are not a thing. They do not exist. They operate those flight on behalf of us, for the record. So I think it’s a pretty bad argument that we should be OAL on our flights that they operate.

As to their priority on our flights, I think that a RAH pilot should get a choice on which airline they want priority. This will naturally lead to them selecting the major they operate on behalf of the vast majority of the time.

I do not think RAH pilots should get priority over OAL on United, Delta, and American. Choose one and I think that’s fair. We don’t have a say over how other shops handle this, but we do have a say over how we handle it.

sanicom3205

You know what I'm talking about when I say "their" flights. They are our flights operated by them - in their own airplanes. No one bought that ticket from republic. I'd like to point out that you are escalating this into an argument rather than a conversation, and you don't work for RAH or American.... kinda strange. You have a place in the conversation but I don't think escalating things is a good idea for an outsider. Or anyone, for that matter.

WO pilots are higher priority because they are AAG employees. That is not the same as a republic employee flying a contracted flight for AA.

Gone Flying

you are right and I apologize. Tone is hard over the internet, my point is not to start a fight and I’m not mad, just perplexed as to why AA is pushing back on this. But re reading my posts I definitely came off as aggressive and that’s not cool.