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Old 05-14-2022, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Peabody17 View Post
So Atlas crashing in the Houston bay doesn’t count?
Werent there other crashes after the 1500 rule? I think UPS but I'm not sure.
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Old 05-15-2022, 01:54 PM
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The magical number they pulled out of their asses only hurts the younger kids that bump up our seniority
That’s not how seniority works.
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Old 05-15-2022, 02:40 PM
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That is EXACTLY what Congress thinks. Problem is “nearly every” 121 crash (prior, post, and including Colgan), the pilots have had more than 1500TT already under their belt. The magical number they pulled out of their asses only hurts the younger kids that bump up our seniority and deters them from becoming an airline pilot.
Yep, it was nothing more than Obama's gift to the unions.
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Old 05-15-2022, 02:41 PM
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But he did have his 1500 hrs just like both Colgan Pilots did. Yes the 117 rules are great but the magic number of 1500 is worthless. Enjoy being stuck at the bottom for extra years when Congress moves the retirement age up to 68, then to 70 then to 72. Remember ALPA is a business. 1% of union dues of a senior WB Cpt making 500k is $5000.00/yr in union dues per employee. ALPA would need 10 new hires to equal that amount. See why ALPA would prefer the age move up vs the TT to go down. If Congress & the FAA want to start somewhere, any 4-yr degree makes you eligible for 1000 TT, not just a 141 University 4-yr Degree (after all the Checkrides are evaluating the pilot to the same standards). But it is all political & money and has ZERO to do about safety. If it were about safety, Congress would have immediately implemented 117 vs 1500TT.
I can't tell you how refreshing it is to finally see someone else post around here who gets it and really understands this!
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Old 05-22-2022, 05:18 AM
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Is republic still trying to lower the 1500 minimum? Is there any word on if it’s going to get approved or not?
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Old 05-22-2022, 05:26 AM
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Is republic still trying to lower the 1500 minimum? Is there any word on if it’s going to get approved or not?
They are, but only for their Lift Academy, and that has an almost zero chance of the FAA approving their request.
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Old 05-22-2022, 05:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
Yep, it was nothing more than Obama's gift to the unions.
Absolutely!! It stinks of union meddling and the usual swamp glad-handing. Over regulated Europe still puts 300 hour CPLs in the right seat of 737s and A320s and they have as good if not better safety record for airlines. The unions were useless when they rolled over and didn't fight the mandated experimental clot shot. Now it's grounding a lot of senior pilots with serious medical issues making the shortage even worse.
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Old 05-22-2022, 09:56 AM
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They are, but only for their Lift Academy, and that has an almost zero chance of the FAA approving their request.
I don't agree with their statement that LIFT Academy training matches and even exceeds Military UPT and should qualify for 750, but I do think there is some validity to LIFT and other Airline associated 141 / 61's that should qualify for RATP 1000 like the college degree programs.
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Old 05-23-2022, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
Correlation doesn't equal causation.

Global market expansion, fewer military pilots, more retirees, high training costs, and inflation all contributed to the wage hikes and pilot shortage. The 1500 hour rule had little, if anything, to do with it. Rolling back the requirements to something reasonable will help the shortage, but only for a year or two more than likely.
I assume you have some facts and figures to back that up because most what you said is hogwash. If you don't think the fact that the Regionals no longer have the ability to change their hiring requirements willy nilly based on their hiring needs has not had a significant positive impact on pilot wages and QOL then you are more out of touch than I thought. btw, the circle jerk is strong in this hidden thread. CFI and Sonic should get a room.
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Originally Posted by bonvoyage View Post
One more reason that vetting applicants on their checkride failures should be the most important thing a company should do (which is what Colgan didn’t do, that CA had multiple failures).

From what I remember with the Atlas crash, that guy had failed several checkrides at mesa, somehow got hired at Atlas, failed initial and got let go, but the union got his job back. Then he put a 76 in the mud.
The biggest thing about that was the guy lied on his application and left out two Regionals where he washed out of training. Because they weren't on his application Atlas did not know to submit PIRA requests to them, they stated if they knew about that they would have never hired him. Another reason for the national database that the FAA is late on establishing.
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