a330er

Always a continuous rumor, does anyone have any actual information on the comparative failure rate (ie return to fo for 6 mos.) of REP vs the others?

Bricky

Flying with a high min CA who says no one in his class failed out. If someone failed a validation they re-trained and passed.

He also hasn't heard of anyone failing out but that's not a guarantee it's all gucci

Web265

It happens here but it's fairly unusual from what I've heard. I know of a couple. How it compares to other shops? I'd be surprised if anyone here could really give you an answer that wasn't pure conjecture.

dmspilot

I'm not at Republic but captain upgrade training at my company was surprisingly easy. The people that fail seem to be inherently bad pilots. I know some that have failed and I'm not sure they even deserve to be FOs.

With the Captain shortage we have, it is not in a regional's interest to wash people out of upgrade unnecessarily.

Bricky

but a failure may keep ya in your seat longer which tis there goal

Excargodog

Most regionals are not hurting for FOs or FO candidates currently but many are parking aircraft for want of CAs to fly them. Right now more CAs is their goal. They aren't going to spend the money on upgrade training just so they can fail yiu and keep you around as a senior FO who is necessarily using some of the limited CA availability for another six months that could be getting a more junior FO upgrade eligible.

Bricky

not at all what I meant. Not talking about 2 failures.

If you fail the MV or LOE and redo and pass your a CA but you can't move on to a leg as easy

dmspilot

A checkride failure with a re-do and pass is another thing, OP asked about a failure of the training program and being demoted back to FO

Bricky

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rdneckpilot

That’s not really true anymore. I know several people hired at legacy carriers with 121 failures within 12 months of the legacy interview.

I’ll also add that early in my career I had similar suspicions about regional airline training departments. Actually one of them was republic about 17 years ago. Having subsequently been employed in the training department at a regional and worked along side all the legendary “bad” examiners and instructors I found all the conspiracies about management intentionally failing people to be false.

Most of the stories originated with poor performance on the part of the applicant. Most but not all. I did see one APD that was off the rails. That situation was resolved by management.

By far the most common truth is the applicant honestly busted. Management gets no benefit failing people.