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03-07-2019 | 10:03 AM
#121
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But if I'm not mistaken, that requires a flap 22 setting as well as an RA less than 200' to trigger all that fancy CAT2 tolerance crap? Because, if you get the CATII annunciator and put in flaps 45, it'll make that go away wont it?
Not that it matters, buuuuuuut in certain cases where flaps 45 is desirable for landing performance, etc it could be self defeating.
Like I said, 2 airplanes and years ago flying it. So if I'm wrong and off base, disregard. I'll take that, because it means I was FINALLY able to purge that 145 crap effectively
03-07-2019 | 10:06 AM
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It's been a long lonnnnnnnnng time and 2 airplanes ago, so forgive me;
But if I'm not mistaken, that requires a flap 22 setting as well as an RA less than 200' to trigger all that fancy CAT2 tolerance crap? Because, if you get the CATII annunciator and put in flaps 45, it'll make that go away wont it?
Not that it matters, buuuuuuut in certain cases where flaps 45 is desirable for landing performance, etc it could be self defeating.
Like I said, 2 airplanes and years ago flying it. So if I'm wrong and off base, disregard. I'll take that, because it means I was FINALLY able to purge that 145 crap effectively
But if I'm not mistaken, that requires a flap 22 setting as well as an RA less than 200' to trigger all that fancy CAT2 tolerance crap? Because, if you get the CATII annunciator and put in flaps 45, it'll make that go away wont it?
Not that it matters, buuuuuuut in certain cases where flaps 45 is desirable for landing performance, etc it could be self defeating.
Like I said, 2 airplanes and years ago flying it. So if I'm wrong and off base, disregard. I'll take that, because it means I was FINALLY able to purge that 145 crap effectively
At any rate, I doubt that an erratic ILS could have caused this. I don’t think a trained crew would start the approach if something was acting up so severely that it caused them to land off the runway, amongst other things.
I’m not really willing to speculate too much on this whole thing. I’m gonna give the crew the benefit of the doubt on this, and wait for the NTSB to do their thing.
Glad nobody was seriously hurt.
03-07-2019 | 10:30 AM
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Not sure. Like I said, I don’t mess with it because it’s not an approved way to do anything at our company.
At any rate, I doubt that an erratic ILS could have caused this. I don’t think a trained crew would start the approach if something was acting up so severely that it caused them to land off the runway, amongst other things.
I’m not really willing to speculate too much on this whole thing. I’m gonna give the crew the benefit of the doubt on this, and wait for the NTSB to do their thing.
Glad nobody was seriously hurt.
At any rate, I doubt that an erratic ILS could have caused this. I don’t think a trained crew would start the approach if something was acting up so severely that it caused them to land off the runway, amongst other things.
I’m not really willing to speculate too much on this whole thing. I’m gonna give the crew the benefit of the doubt on this, and wait for the NTSB to do their thing.
Glad nobody was seriously hurt.
And my time on the plane, it wasnt frequent, but the whole FD/AP set up on it could suck at times. I remember being on an ILS and having the loc flip flop around.
03-08-2019 | 08:40 AM
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My understanding (which might well be wrong) was that the ASOS went down to 1/2 mile vis with heavier brief flurries reported on the ground. White runway surrounded by white snow with inadequate snow removal. Good runway because it's left over from a USAF base closed in the 60s, but the town itself is less than 10,000 population served because it's Essential Air Service. They have neither the personnel nor the equipment to keep a runway cleared to the extent a busier field would.
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