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Old 03-05-2019, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by dera View Post
Except that they work for CommutAir, and they have no flow.
They’ll have a flow when PDT, PSA or Envoy hire them tomorrow.
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Old 03-05-2019, 07:04 AM
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There are only certain provision in the flow for new hire pilots. This would not be one.
Again, there will be a full investigation. I have no idea what the result of that will be. I hope it totally exonerates the crew. But if it assesses fault to one or both pilots, it is naive IN THE EXTREME to believe that flow would save their careers, even at their current level, far less at the level they might wish to flow to.

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I’m just saying it’s a good insurance policy to have.
You certainly are entitled to your opinion, but it is one I do not share. Everything is volatile in this business. Even long promised pensions can disappear in a bankruptcy. Just ask the Delta pilots.

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Everyone here could find themselves in a similar situation. No one wants to check that box on an application. The computer system might even toss out Sullys app.
Absolutely, which doesn’t mean that flow would/will save you if you screw up, which I’m still hoping these pilots did not do. But let’s wait for the mishap board results and not preemptively say that if only Commutair had flow these guys would be fine. These guys might be fine regardless if the mishap investigation doesn’t fault them or totally screwed regardless if it does. Let’s not prejudge the investigation.
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Old 03-05-2019, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by MySaabStory View Post
The computer system might even toss out Sullys app.
"I successfully ditched an aircraft on a river after we lost both engines on climb out" vs. "we lost an engine when I put the landing gear in it."

Huh.
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Old 03-05-2019, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver View Post
Huh.
"Have you ever been involved in an accident or incident or the subject of an investigation?"

The fear is that by answering "yes" to this question the computer scores you lower, or perhaps even disqualifies you automatically regardless of the details.

If a company has thousands of applications with 90% of them being incident/accident free, why waste time on those that have accidents or incidents?


Think about it from a HR perspective.
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer View Post
"Have you ever been involved in an accident or incident or the subject of an investigation?"

The fear is that by answering "yes" to this question the computer scores you lower, or perhaps even disqualifies you automatically regardless of the details.

If a company has thousands of applications with 90% of them being incident/accident free, why waste time on those that have accidents or incidents?


Think about it from a HR perspective.
The HR perspective...

Sully calls. You don't care what the computer says. You hire him.

Throwing out a Sully comparison here is stretching it.
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Old 03-05-2019, 11:38 AM
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Sounds like they totally missed the runway??

https://thecounty.me/2019/03/04/news...-presque-isle/
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Old 03-05-2019, 01:44 PM
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Not good...
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Coneydog View Post
Not good...
The last photo states it landed off the runway. That’s a crash

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Old 03-05-2019, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by drywhitetoast View Post
Got a few hours in that a/c when it was new over at xjt. Hope to see her flying again soon.
Barring a miracle, it will be a hull loss....
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Old 03-05-2019, 02:56 PM
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The weather wasn’t *that* bad. It looks less like an over-run and more like a wreck imo.
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