I'm confused at why so much speculation is occurring? No-one hear knows what happened so why dont we just wait to find out. There isn't a reason to point fingers and lay blame with our current knowledge.I'm also sure if it was the pilots fault that there not happy it happened and anyone here saying o **** you messed up isn't helping.

 

Amen.
Until the NTSB has a report, S.T.F.U.

 

I was part of the Pinnacle when Colgan 3407 happened. I thought Pinnacle/Colgan was getting shut down not long after, part of our training was changed because of it. Same goes for Pinnacle 3701. There was a much higher rate of Type ride bust after the crash.

 

No disrespect, but I've noticed every time I hear C5 on the radio, either the crew is confused, transmitting with a barely intelligible heavy accent, getting yelled at by ATC, or it sounds like it's the FO's first day...what gives. Just my observations over the past 8 years in Newark. I know I'm not the only one noticing this.

 

Anyone know anything about the crew? How long has he been CA? Was the CA or FO flying?

 

Where there injuries? A total hull loss?

 

I talked to a local asset in PQI who claims the plane never arrived on the runway...entire incident occurred off pavement, and it came to rest so far from the runway the first thing they needed were snowplows to access the crash site.

 

This is a valid concern. I don’t know about other companies, but Delta doesn’t use a computer to screen applications before a human looks at them. If an app is pulled, a human reads and scores it.

Certainly a wreck won’t help, nor checkride busts or traffic tickets. But at least at Delta you won’t be eliminated from consideration by a computer if you mark “yes” to any of the questions asking about negative aspects of your career (which most of us have in our past by the time we’re competitive for the majors).

 

He was a zoo grad and fighter pilot, he'd still get an interview or at least a human review.

 

I'm saying the flow is not 100% reliable, if you get on their radar in a big way they will find a way to not flow you. Especially if we are talking AA... Has nothing to do with NTSB, they're not involved in hiring in any way, has more to do with what's on the six o'clock news.

But I do agree that flow is generally a good thing to have as a backup, unless you it's going to cost you a lot of money or QOL. If you hang out and wait to flow, as opposed to to trying to get out early, that will cost you a lot of money. Plus you never when flow might get cancelled, that's only happened two or three times before.

For clarity, I'm talking about flow and major hiring in general, not this particular accident specifically since they don't even have flow, ie not speculating. Flow is not an absolute in all cases, still better try to keep your nose clean. And get out early in case something happens to the flow.