787 Woes
#21
Interesting indeed, I hate to say it, but serves them right. I wonder what these MBAs and bean counters are thinking now? I'm sure they accept ZERO responsibility
In the grand scheme of things these are some relatively minor issues when launching an aircraft this sophisitcated, i.e. A380
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the Boeing 737 Rudder Lawsuits
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The 787's electrical system always seemed suspect to me. a 270 volt DC system is going to get hot fast when it encounters resistance. There has not been a contactor ever built which is absolutely impervious to dirt, condensation and corrosion. The 235 volt V-AC side shares similar issues.
Simply stated, a lot of power is getting pushed through a small conduit. Anything not working right is going to get very hot, very quickly. I've not seen how they safeguarded the design, but one would think that fusible links would be impractical. Remote switches encounter control and contactor issues.
Getting rid of bleed air may have been a step too far in this sort of application.
Simply stated, a lot of power is getting pushed through a small conduit. Anything not working right is going to get very hot, very quickly. I've not seen how they safeguarded the design, but one would think that fusible links would be impractical. Remote switches encounter control and contactor issues.
Getting rid of bleed air may have been a step too far in this sort of application.
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Have you all been hearing this stuff on the news? Evidently, the 787 has turned out to be a huge piece of crap. According to Fox this morning, a Jap 787 had to land due to another battery fire. They've now grounded the whole fleet.
It's real sad that the French build a better plane than we can.
It's real sad that the French build a better plane than we can.
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Have you all been hearing this stuff on the news? Evidently, the 787 has turned out to be a huge piece of crap. According to Fox this morning, a Jap 787 had to land due to another battery fire. They've now grounded the whole fleet.
It's real sad that the French build a better plane than we can.
It's real sad that the French build a better plane than we can.
Its also a aircraft built to integrate the pilot into the flying. Airbus attempts to isolate the pilot. Two very different approach but I know which one I prefer.
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Clearly you have not followed the problems Airbus has had in new aircraft introductions. So far the 787 has had outstanding dispatch reliability since it went into scheduled service. In fact its been much better then airbus has achieved. Yes they have having a problem with the Lithium Ion batteries made by a Japanese company. I am sure they will work it out or switch back to NiCads. The aircraft is meeting all specs for range and fuel consumption. The numbers are compelling and its going to be a game changer. Sadly my airline does not seem to want any.
Its also a aircraft built to integrate the pilot into the flying. Airbus attempts to isolate the pilot. Two very different approach but I know which one I prefer.
Its also a aircraft built to integrate the pilot into the flying. Airbus attempts to isolate the pilot. Two very different approach but I know which one I prefer.
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I rode back to LAX from Houston on a unical 787. Nice ride, good first class. Hate to hear they're having problems, but serves Boeing right for screwing over their loyal employees.
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The 737 Power Control Units you reference were outsourced to Parker Hannifin. Boeing management conspired to cover up a known flaw:
the Boeing 737 Rudder Lawsuits
the Boeing 737 Rudder Lawsuits
#30
Clearly you have not followed the problems Airbus has had in new aircraft introductions. So far the 787 has had outstanding dispatch reliability since it went into scheduled service. In fact its been much better then airbus has achieved. Yes they have having a problem with the Lithium Ion batteries made by a Japanese company. I am sure they will work it out or switch back to NiCads. The aircraft is meeting all specs for range and fuel consumption. The numbers are compelling and its going to be a game changer. Sadly my airline does not seem to want any.
Its also a aircraft built to integrate the pilot into the flying. Airbus attempts to isolate the pilot. Two very different approach but I know which one I prefer.
Its also a aircraft built to integrate the pilot into the flying. Airbus attempts to isolate the pilot. Two very different approach but I know which one I prefer.
Game Changer! Love it! Only until the other 800 are delivered and most of the airlines have similar casm.
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