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Old 01-16-2013 | 05:54 AM
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Have you all been hearing this stuff on the news? Evidently, the 787 has turned out to be a huge piece of crap. According to Fox this morning, a Jap 787 had to land due to another battery fire. They've now grounded the whole fleet.

It's real sad that the French build a better plane than we can.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 05:59 AM
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That's because "We" (experienced, unionized Boeing workers in Everet) didn't build it.

Boeing decided to outsource most of it, that's why it was delayed for 3 years, nothing fit right when the outsourced work came back. So they built a plant in a "Right to Work" state, just to get around using Union workers to build it.

As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.

Pay peanuts, expect a circus.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
That's because "We" (experienced, unionized Boeing workers in Everet) didn't build it.

Boeing decided to outsource most of it, that's why it was delayed for 3 years, nothing fit right when the outsourced work came back. So they built a plant in a "Right to Work" state, just to get around using Union workers to build it.

As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.

Pay peanuts, expect a circus.

Actually it was only when nonunion labor got the task that things started to go right. Non union is faaaaaaar superior to union made crap.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by ironspud
Actually it was only when nonunion labor got the task that things started to go right. Non union is faaaaaaar superior to union made crap.
Those union workers in Seattle have been building rock solid airplanes for a long long time.

Then this airplane is built by non-union non-american outsourced cheapest bidder companies and you get this hunk of junk.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 06:05 AM
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Re. the "non Union is far superior" post above:

Yeah, I guess that's why the 777, 767, 757 and 737's all had worse problems and turned out to be such a huge POS...
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Old 01-16-2013 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
That's because "We" (experienced, unionized Boeing workers in Everet) didn't build it.

Boeing decided to outsource most of it, that's why it was delayed for 3 years, nothing fit right when the outsourced work came back. So they built a plant in a "Right to Work" state, just to get around using Union workers to build it.

As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.

Pay peanuts, expect a circus.
I doubt the guys that actually designed the plane we anything but Boeing employees. It's not assemble problems they are having. It's bad design issues. Take your union rhetoric somewhere else.
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Old 01-16-2013 | 06:07 AM
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Outsourcing isn't all it's cracked up to be.

787 Dreamliner teaches Boeing costly lesson on outsourcing « MADE IN USA NEWS
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Old 01-16-2013 | 06:07 AM
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Originally Posted by ironspud
Actually it was only when nonunion labor got the task that things started to go right. Non union is faaaaaaar superior to union made crap.
So...what's going right for the 787 these days??
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Old 01-16-2013 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by GlobeTreker
I doubt the guys that actually designed the plane we anything but Boeing employees. It's not assemble problems they are having. It's bad design issues. Take your union rhetoric somewhere else.
Yeah, what was I thinking, promoting union work here, on an airline pilot web site...
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Old 01-16-2013 | 06:14 AM
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It's because they went with a lithium cadmium instead of a NiCad battery. They were looking for more amperage and lighter weight. But they seem to be overheating. It's not an outsourcing prob.
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