Originally Posted by JJ21
(Post 1605356)
even the old guys are trolling for info.
Very few of you have flown in SE Asia (in particular KL) and have flown the 777, I happen to have done both (including KL many, many times). Everything is supposition at this point until we have more solid info. Even the NTSB guy on Fox the other night was spouting things that are not true about the 777. Professionally speaking, put a cork in it. |
I am saying did the crew put a NEW secondary flight plan in 12 mins before crossing open ocean towards Vietnam as a standard procedure as their t/o over open ocean was NOT the best airport to return "just incase" an emergency occurred.
12 mins before looks like it would have been before they coasted out. To me putting a new secondary flight plan for a possible emergency ahead of time makes sense. |
your right I have not flown the triple7 but I have flown corporate jets all over the world including Asia.
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Originally Posted by JJ21
(Post 1605508)
I am saying did the crew put a NEW secondary flight plan in 12 mins before crossing open ocean towards Vietnam as a standard procedure as their t/o over open ocean was NOT the best airport to return "just incase" an emergency occurred.
To my knowledge ACARS does not transmit changes in the FMS to anyone. I am not even sure if that info can be pinged from the aircraft and I am thinking not. The info "may" be retrievable from NV-RAM in the FMS once the ship is located. I don't consider the water between Malaysia and Vietnam "open ocean" either. I have flown between KL and HKG many times which is the approximate route and you are in radar most of the way. JJ21...you are either new or making stuff up. |
Originally Posted by Mazster
(Post 1605495)
Round two:
Is it conceivable on a 777 to have an electrical fire that produces enough smoke to take out the crew, and terminates power to the transponders, ACARS and presumably the communications transceivers without interrupting power to the A/P and other systems required to keep the A/C in the air? (FYI, not a reporter) |
Originally Posted by JJ21
(Post 1605508)
I am saying did the crew put a NEW secondary flight plan in 12 mins before crossing open ocean towards Vietnam as a standard procedure as their t/o over open ocean was NOT the best airport to return "just incase" an emergency occurred.
12 mins before looks like it would have been before they coasted out. To me putting a new secondary flight plan for a possible emergency ahead of time makes sense. |
ok lets go to the basics...where would you go if you had an emergency in the same location that contact was lost with Flt370 in the middle of the night with lost communications?
Would you have preprogrammed a "emergency airport" (secondary flight plan) in the box PRIOR to flying over the SOUTH CHINA SEA? How is that better? |
Originally Posted by Thedude
(Post 1605516)
We have no way of knowing until the a/c is found.
To my knowledge ACARS does not transmit changes in the FMS to anyone. I am not even sure if that info can be pinged from the aircraft and I am thinking not. The info "may" be retrievable from NV-RAM in the FMS once the ship is located. I don't consider the water between Malaysia and Vietnam "open ocean" either. I have flown between KL and HKG many times which is the approximate route and you are in radar most of the way. JJ21...you are either new or making stuff up. Those pprune folks talk about it here ADS and CPDLC - PPRuNe Forums I've always kept any unofficial waypoints out of Legs 1 just for that reason. I've been told that they can actually see what we have in RTE 2 also |
Does anyone screen new APC account applicants for credentials? For crying out loud! Some of these people are asking questions a private pilot should know. Clearly the AIM is a document that can be researched online. It's fine to lurk as a non-pilot, but the 3 page posts of nothing but elementary questions about SAR and other established procedures contribute nothing to the discussion. Mods can anything be done here? |
Originally Posted by Dougdrvr
(Post 1605378)
I like it, Jungle. That's right up there with "AF's water desalinate facility is inop". :)
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