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Old 07-17-2014, 07:33 PM
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It is somewhat interesting to read some of the responses and calls for action. Unfortunately, we've already been down this road with KAL007. Here is a quick article I found on the sanctions that were imposed back then. Most were directed at Aeroflot and Russian civil aviation. Very few were directed at military or economic sanctions outside of civil aviation

Lessons from KAL 007 on diplomacy and sanctions - CSMonitor.com
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:46 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbyZYgSXdyw
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Old 07-17-2014, 07:48 PM
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Putin flew through that area 37 minutes prior to the shooting.

http://rt.com/news/173672-malaysia-plane-crash-putin/

And then this?

MH17 Crash: Full Transcript Of Alleged Phone Intercepts Between Russian Intelligence Officers [VIDEO]

Just speculation, but may it be a botched assassination?
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Old 07-17-2014, 08:16 PM
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ALL players in this area, and most other areas, are capable of False Flag operations...beware, don't rush to judgment. A well-played False Flag can change the outcomes of wars, and has. Sam
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Old 07-17-2014, 08:22 PM
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Putin paint scheme



Malaysia paint scheme (minus two engines....)



Putin plane reportedly in area same time frame. Paint scheme similar. Coincidence ? I don't know. Could an untrained, retarded, cave-savage militant with long range binoculars be able to discern the difference before pulling the trigger on his professional-grade weapons ?

Don't know.
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Old 07-17-2014, 08:26 PM
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SAMs do not match pictures and you'd be hard pressed to have a ground observer identify anything useable in that area under those conditions (hard pressed to even misidentify something). I guess we have a new angle for the conspiracy theory crowd.

Ostensibly, a more realistic scenario involves times/location not being communicated correctly, but that is all still rather far fetched and you're dealing with an error well in excess of 50 miles.
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Old 07-17-2014, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by aviatorhi View Post
SAMs do not match pictures and you'd be hard pressed to have a ground observer identify anything useable in that area under those conditions (hard pressed to even misidentify something). I guess we have a new angle for the conspiracy theory crowd.

Ostensibly, a more realistic scenario involves times/location not being communicated correctly, but that is all still rather far fetched and you're dealing with an error well in excess of 50 miles.
Good points, I am not saying the above is a "conspiracy theory" but a mistake. By bad-guys, but a mistake. US Navy made a similar mistake and they are the worlds best trained military force.

Iran Air Flight 655 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

SAMs don't have brains or think on their own. A human is behind the SAM.
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We aren't ones to talk. Re: Iran Air 655
That didn't take you long shyguy! Btw, what's your point?
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Old 07-18-2014, 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by TheFly View Post
There is "some thing wrong" with this guy. His too orange level of people not like him is extremely low.
Something wrong with him because you don't agree with him? You and Google's picasso( or whatever his name is )are the epitome of your kind. I suppose your penance is being who you are.
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Something wrong with him because you don't agree with him? You and Google's picasso( or whatever his name is )are the epitome of your kind. I suppose your penance is being who you are.
Say again.

Preferably in an easier to understand way.
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