Malaysia Flight 17 (777) shot down!

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07-17-2014, 08:22 AM

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CBreezy

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Originally Posted by ShyGuy

Historically speaking, the Russian military or the US Navy. Looks like the Russian military again.

I think we should keep in mind who released this information. A Ukrainian government official, who has seen his country lose territory and people in the air and on the ground, would quickly blame his adversary.

07-17-2014, 08:22 AM

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Hopefully the MH crew was on their flight plan.

07-17-2014, 08:24 AM

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My company has been flying around Ukrainian airspace for months now.

07-17-2014, 08:25 AM

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If it's MA17 :
they were last at 52°06'14.8"N 8°31'27.8"E which plants them straight over Germany. The plot thickens....

07-17-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jrishaw

If it's MA17 :
they were last at 52°06'14.8"N 8°31'27.8"E which plants them straight over Germany. The plot thickens....

Flightaware has them over Ukraine.

07-17-2014, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverside

Might want to move this out of the cargo forums.

Cargo guys deadhead on pax carriers. Also....we "cargo" types fly these exact routes over Ukraine/Russia all the time. This is a serious threat to ALL airlines!!

07-17-2014, 08:32 AM

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Sum Ting Wong

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Time for more hashtag diplomacy

#DontShootPlanes

07-17-2014, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

Want to take a bet? Russia has been exporting weapons to separatists. Kids playing with a new toy.

07-17-2014, 08:36 AM

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planefinder

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MAS17 playback from 2014-07-17T13:05:01 UTC - Plane Finder

07-17-2014, 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FDXLAG

Want to take a bet? Russia has been exporting weapons to separatists. Kids playing with a new toy.

I never said it wasn't. I just said keep in mind who said it. Seems a little early to jump to conclusions. Based on recent events, the odds of it being shot down are a lot higher than most regions but it's still lacking any facts.

Of course as I wrote that: pictures indicate a debris field and indicates that it didn't hit the ground intact.