I could maybe see this if there were a poison pill that said something to the effect of if SWA furloughs or goes BK there's an immediate snapback to MMG. Even if we don't go the furlough/BK route then there should be a sunset/renewal every couple months to readjust based on conditions at that time.


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Fear porn sells these days. Personally, I'm not really into it and I don't put much stake in it. The mainstream media has literally been reduced to fear porn peddling and tabloid-like reporting, so I don't pay much attention to it. Kinda like this furlough talk and reading these wannabe airline executives rationalizing how many the company will furlough....

Zap nails it with these two sentences: "They don't have a cost problem, they have a revenue problem. Cutting to zero won't solve that." E X A C T L Y ! ! !

I see the company offering early retirements, and those who have money in Top Hat should seriously consider an early retirement. I also see company offering long-term LOA's, but I just don't see furloughs. Again, who squawked the loudest at Southwest Airlines over the staffing... Management, Scheduling or OT *****s?

If you lay off 3,000 pilots... you're looking at a 3 year recall process simply due to capacity. Would anyone be willing to take the risk going that far out? Is that even reasonable? Personally, I don't think so. Our product is a household name. If we want to keep a foothold in the market and get into new ones because someone folded or vacated it, it's our metal on it with SWAPA pilots flying it. People keep disregarding this, but this is a true gem in our contract. By comparison, look at Alaska... thanks to going to arbitration over their contract, Alaska management could theoretically furlough the entire Alaska Airlines seniority list and maintain their brand by outsourcing all the flying to SkyWest and Horizon.

Just not seeing it here... especially as the pressure to reopen the economy keeps growing.

To your point about fear porn:

Part 1 of 4

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7LqaotiGWjQ


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Yes, the monthly guarantee is would would be waived. Keep everyone on the property, and keep them flying, albeit 1-2 trips a month. That keeps everyone current, and ready to go. If the company wants to increase flight in the short term, there is Open time etc.

A great book that should be mandatory reading for any airline pilot is “Hard Landing” by Tom Petzinger.

Well if you're gonna reference that book you gotta read flying the line Vol 1&2 as well.


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Interesting from Flying the Line II:

“Waive” the monthly guarantee?! Are you out of your mind?

Not waived, but reduced temporarily by negotiated agreement

After all the VPs take a huge pay cut. All office employees held to the same deal and all officers get zero pay till everyone is made whole.
maybe we talk about ourselves because it's what we can control but there are a lot more ways to save money. Pilots pay is not the reason we are profitable or not

Excellent post!