Once again you show what an uninformed, management loving troll you are. Go ahead try it and the first place I / us will go to is the nearest US Embassy and say we were abandoned overseas by the company on the express wishes of PW.

Watch how quickly YOUR head will spin, so much so that your sorry 77 year old @ss won't be able to afford your payments for several failed marriages and your alcoholic visits to Belleville bars. No sir you ARE the only CSer here.

If you already "saw" the potential proposal why do you need a copy?

Stay away from K4. That's the only decision you should make. It's going to get really messy there.

Who the F are you to tell people to stay away...

Well, I "saw" it a couple months ago and didn't have much skin in the game at the time so I didn't pay much attention to it other than to know it was out there...

I think that is a little harsh? If you're gonna stay away right now it should be to help us secure a contract but not because this place is horrible.

FYI my experience is limited at K4 so please take my post with a grain; however, the job has been everything I expected and actually a little better to be honest.

17-18 days can be rough Noone will deny that but I've been welcomed as a newbie by everyone thus far including FMEs and LMs...

What I find confusing though is even with all the chaos and frustration surrounding the contract I have yet to witness our crews purposely trying to hurt the operation or slow things down. Unless I've totally missed something here I don't see why there is so much animosity towards the pilots?

I will say this company puts 95% of all the responsibility on the CA. I hear guys have done 2 year upgrades on the 747 and I just don't see how or if I would be ready that quick.

Hope this helps anyone considering K4...

LA

The proposed payrates are buried in the "Atlas Hiring" thread. Do a search.

Thanks, found it. It helps a bit. I know things are not the best there, my current flying situation is worse. That said, I'm just trying to get as much info as I can. Stay safe!

Lighten up! I'm the Jackhammer guy.

For the last time, PW is not PW. He is BP😀. I cannot believe some of you actually have pilots licenses. Again, you all remind me of the blonde girl on the insurance commercial who says "if it is on the internet it must be true!" But let's suppose for an instant that PW was PW. Your response to his remarks, (which are satire) is just as rude and obnoxious as his. Thank God you morons are not on the negotiating committee.

This is just uncalled for and disrespectful to all of us. Now if you want to post your real name on here along with such statements I would still think you to be an ass but I would at least have a tiny amount of respect for you😡