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Repeatedly saying that we are forced to work on our days off does not make it true. You can say it over and over again, but you do not work for this company and you have no knowledge of how we operate. You have not seen any of our internal documents that clearly lay out all of your concerns (pay, days off, benefits, etc.) I will say that you must volunteer to work on your days off, there is no strong arming pilots into working extra days. You are plainly asked and if you say no, YOU GET ALL YOUR DAYS OFF, no questions asked. If you want to see these documents, apply! They are given to everyone in the interview, and every current pilot has a copy.
You have already voiced your displeasure of signing training contracts. The confession of judgement is a last resort and its spelled out in the language of the document under what circumstances it will be exercised. It is explicitly tied to the training contract, and once that contract expires, so does the COJ (far from your theory of. The COJ only enforces the contract you should have had every intention of upholding. What makes training unique is that there is no collateral like you would with a car loan so unfortunately the only restitution is repayment. Maybe that will change in the future, but for the time being that is the case. Telling an actual lawyer that he missed a day in law school because he was sharing his view that its common to use COJs in Nevada to enforce contracts was pretty out of line. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you need to insult them.
There is not a single fake account on this thread associated with Cirrus. Why are you surprised that the majority of us enjoy our job and would like to come on here to defend it, especially when so much misinformation has been propagated. For the past 2 years I have worked at cirrus and I have not been lied to once. Cirrus seems like a completely different company than the one I originally signed up to work for, the fact that they are constantly making improvements and listening to pilot concerns is reason I stayed.
This is a great career, there is nothing like it. For me this is a second career and my worst day is still better than my best day in my former life. I think we should be finding ways to make every operator better so they can create as many of these flying jobs as possible, not try and tear every other company besides our own apart.
False-your own former employees have called you out repeatedly. Your company steals pilots hotel points. Why would anyone believe a word you say? Well I guessed they have to if you have a confession of judgement over there head. Why do you all continue to argue with me I’m sure there’s thousands of applicants that feel I’m full of **** and are lined up around the corner to work for Cirrus. Right?.Originally Posted by LLWS09R
Repeatedly saying that we are forced to work on our days off does not make it true. You can say it over and over again, but you do not work for this company and you have no knowledge of how we operate. You have not seen any of our internal documents that clearly lay out all of your concerns (pay, days off, benefits, etc.) I will say that you must volunteer to work on your days off, there is no strong arming pilots into working extra days. You are plainly asked and if you say no, YOU GET ALL YOUR DAYS OFF, no questions asked. If you want to see these documents, apply! They are given to everyone in the interview, and every current pilot has a copy.
You have already voiced your displeasure of signing training contracts. The confession of judgement is a last resort and its spelled out in the language of the document under what circumstances it will be exercised. It is explicitly tied to the training contract, and once that contract expires, so does the COJ (far from your theory of. The COJ only enforces the contract you should have had every intention of upholding. What makes training unique is that there is no collateral like you would with a car loan so unfortunately the only restitution is repayment. Maybe that will change in the future, but for the time being that is the case. Telling an actual lawyer that he missed a day in law school because he was sharing his view that its common to use COJs in Nevada to enforce contracts was pretty out of line. Just because you disagree with someone doesn't mean you need to insult them.
There is not a single fake account on this thread associated with Cirrus. Why are you surprised that the majority of us enjoy our job and would like to come on here to defend it, especially when so much misinformation has been propagated. For the past 2 years I have worked at cirrus and I have not been lied to once. Cirrus seems like a completely different company than the one I originally signed up to work for, the fact that they are constantly making improvements and listening to pilot concerns is reason I stayed.
This is a great career, there is nothing like it. For me this is a second career and my worst day is still better than my best day in my former life. I think we should be finding ways to make every operator better so they can create as many of these flying jobs as possible, not try and tear every other company besides our own apart.