I appreciate it! I know 10 years ago me and my family had the world promised to us to find out we were lied to. And now I make it my personal mission to help others. It seems like a joke but a new FO with a wife and young child is difficult enough working bankers hours let alone being gone for 20 days. Those 10 days better be signed for in blood by a company. The reality Cirrus or another non name brand part 135 is a buisness. They are in it for one thing money. You don’t make money by parking an airplane for 10 days in a high volume city. If staffing an issue then make sure you have plenty of crews. If not “. You will find out who’s skinny dipping when the tide goes out”

 

I won’t post it here, but the pay scales are posted now. Though I’m not sure it explains extra day pay.

Hate to beat a dead horse but as far as I know the confession is still there. Either don’t work here, or put the year in. Hopefully this will go away eventually.

Yes Cirrus has had trouble crewing they airplanes and guys were asked to help out, but are compensated for every extra day flow. They’ve been trying hard to make things better since I’ve been here. With the new pay scale if a 60 captain was only getting 4 days off a month he’d be making 163,341.24 a year.

 

My Friend its not all about money. Sometimes you want to be home with your family it’s a Quality of Life issue.

 

Fly604LV

I received a contract (SIC) from Cirrus this year and there was nothing in it regarding days off, training days etc from what I recall. That’s why the confession of judgement made me nervous, as there was nothing (from what I remember) in writing in the contract.

Again, I have no reason not to believe you. Perhaps for PICs the contract had those stipulations in there because you guys are a hotter commodity than SICs.

If they did change the terms within the past few months for SICs and have it all in writing then seriously kudos to you guys. If they take care of their employees, their employees will take care of them. However, it seems to many pilots have been bitten in the past by Cirrus and as the saying goes “once bitten, twice shy.”

What I did notice though when I interviewed was that quite a few flights were PIC crews. Training issues with getting SICs on board or contract issues? It’s gotta be one or the other I would venture to say.

 

That sucks that happened to you and your family.

Of course no company wants to park an airplane for 10 days a month. And like I’ve said, we’ve had crewing issues. The chief pilot I know is working to get enough crews to sustain the 17/13 captain schedule. When there isn’t enough pilots to sustain that schedule for a given airplane. The pilots picking up the slack are compensated. I gave an example in my previous post.

 

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You write “Lawsuits of any kind are expensive.”

This is very true. That is why skipping virtually all of that process by jumping to a confession of judgement — which means one admits “l owe this money and agree to a judgment for it, regardless of any money the employer may owe me or any claims l may have, none of which are presented here” — is great for the employer.

You wrote: “As an employee you still have plenty of rights.”

Yes, but to enforce those rights, one needs a lawyer—and, as you wrote, litigation is expensive. Actually, it’s much worse for an individual employer who doesn’t have a lawyer on staff, not can expense one as a cost of doing business. The employer only needs the advice and to litigate these issues ONCE. Each employee is alone and can’t benefit from previous experiences on the same facts.

Bottom line: What’s sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. Personally, l will sign a confession securing my obligations to any employer who will secure their obligations to me concurrently. Any employer stepping up for that equal trade? The silence is deafening....

You wrote: “The confession isn’t a big deal to me.”

I wager you’ve not a single confession outstanding against you today—and you’ve probably got car loans, credit cards, house loans, etc., not one of which has sought what we both know is an extreme remedy. And if you advised a client to sign one under these circumstances you’d be committing malpractice...even in Nevada.

Just my $0.02...worth what you paid for it....

 

A challenger captain with only 4 days off in a month, I would sure as hell want more than $163,341.24

 

Any company requiring this “confession” document has issues....especially in today’s environment. It would be an easy pass for me.

 

Correction, Lear 60 but that doesn’t change things

 

You have crewing issues because the company isn't meeting industry standards. It's as simple as that.

I worked for a 135 that had a one year training contract. Not a single pilot ever breached it because it was a great place to work.

Management didn't try to micromanage the pilots and steal their rewards points. It worked out great.