A few dozen. No more than about 40-45.

16-01 bid had a 6yr Airbus Captain, and at least 18 757 captains with less than 18 months. Some had less than a year on property when awarded the upgrade.

There is probably at least 60 of us that have 3 1/2 years or less. When the 18-01 bid finishes I’ll have less than 4 years on property and will have 80 plus 757 Captains junior to me.

Thanks for the info.
Good year to all

It depends.

What are your stats and what is your ultimate goal?

I'm not going to tell you what to do, but I will give you some advice.

First, you absolutely must do your research about the current pay and work rules in force today. I cannot count how many times people come from the regionals and then complain about the work rules here, saying they are better in the regionals.

If you come and find yourself unpleasantly surprised that's YOUR fault, and of course also the fault of the recruiters who probably misled, or flat out lied to you during the recruitment process.

Second, realize that the company and the union are in a full blown, knock down drag out, gutter fight.

Third, there is a lot of short to medium term uncertainty with the direction of the company, given the influence of Amazon, DHL and the latest crash. You need to be prepared for ANY consequence those three factors may impose on the operation.

If you can handle the low pay, horrible work rules and turbulent (to put it mildly) work environment then come on over, but I highly recommend you keep some other apps updated just in case it doesn't turn out to be your cup of tea.

Very well said. At ABX close to 50% quit and go back to passenger or their old place of employment once they see how aweful ACMI is. ......and ABX is actually considered to have the best work rules in ACMI. Everyone should do their home work before making a leap!

While I commend your sentiment regarding the jobs at FedEx and UPS, I have to question the rest of your post.


How in the world is Amazon's CVG sort facility going to rival FedEx's and UPS's -- COMBINED? From what I've read the facility's capability is going to be less than FedEx's. On peak nights FedEx has 150 airplanes flying through the sort and that doesn't include our feeder folks. Even the Indy Hub, which is currently 2.5 million square feet, is scheduled for a $1.5B expansion this year -- the same amount Amazon is spending in CVG. While I agree Amazon is rapidly expanding their logistics capability, I think your comment is greatly exaggerated. Please prove me wrong if I am mistaken.



Second, with reference to Southwest, how is Amazon and DHL "southwesting" FedEx and UPS?

By underpaying and overworking their pilots.

Don’t pay any attention to him. He’s been drinking the Kool Aid.

Ah I get it now. I don’t want a war with him. That wouldn’t be productive here. I was only wondering how the Southwest reference was being applied. Your explanation makes perfect sense. Thank you.