OMG---the sky is falling!!
Fact is, mgt was going to hire someone into that position. It could be a bottom line lawyer type, ala Lorenzo, that fails to understand the nuances of labor relations at the airlines and only looks at the bottom line. Might be(but unlikely) that it will be an individual totally sympathetic to pilots and will sell the company down the river. OR, the third alternative is an individual that understands both sides and realizes that a "fair" position is the most advantageous in the long run and also understands the increased importance to the Delta pilots re scope.

RD might be the smartest guy in the room re scope but I can assure you that the collective Borg brain of almost 15,000 pilots trumps his big brain.

With memrat, I just dont see this as a big deal insofar as being "had" by the company.....but it certainly plays into the anti ALPA crowd and the "it's just not right". Face it, the majority of all people do what is in the best intrest of themselves and their families. I am certain no pilot has called in sick because it was the most expedient/advantageous thing to do. Keep picking up rocks in your moral indignation, all it does is divide not unify. All the threats of DPA proves my point(at least to me)
Aren't the same people that are but hurt the same ones that propose spending money on paid negotiators to get the very best? Well, if RD was so smart then why didnt those same people not advocate paying RD an over-ride to protect that "valuable" resource....could you imagine the heel and cry?........haters just gotta hate.

With the ammendable date just over a year away, let's all pull together and not make polarizing issues outta everything...we al get 1 vote, and we will not be fooled(neither will mgt). The days of pulling one over on the other side are gone, whether RD is there or someone else. Just NBFD

Spot on.

If this was Game of Thrones this MEC Admin would easily be House of Frey. Management easily the Lannisters.

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The sleep with their siblings?

“The RJs are saving our bacon!!!”

“The RJs will feed our international and we will buy countless widebodies.”

“We will not get one more penny if we vote down TA1”

It’s like you were not there for this.

But has two tt’s

Butt

As in, no one is more “butt hurt” than Bucking Bar.

Geesh...but...butt... mox nix

There is another typo in there if you look real hard. No point in reading for comprehension when you can castigate and disparage the messenger and others

Thanks for playing word hunt😍

TA1 was a disaster that led to the Red Wedding, BB defeating JM for MEC Chair.

But you have witnessed what happened in recent LEC elections in ATL and SLC. When people ask you what happened here, tell them the north remembers. Tell them winter came for House Frey



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That view completely downplays the dangers of a bad TA Section 1 though. You're basically saying it won't happen because it can't happen. But it can happen and it has happened. IMO this will be the company's biggest power play for C19 by far.

PS is too emotional to really do anything about now, plus they've completely caved to the non cons so that ship has sailed. Any significant attempt to roll that back now would result in a yellow (safety) vest outcry from the proletariat.

Sec 3 is obviously one of the more emphasized sections, as well as where a large portion of the pie resides, but there's no way they can come hard to the paint with something so eye watering that we'll willingly and knowingly cave on Scope at this point.

Work rules are extremely complex and convoluted, (does anyone truly understand just the reroute rules in their entirety and in real time?) but we can expect some attempt to claw some more "productivity" while throwing a few bones the other way for the appearance of balance and/or division. Never underestimate the emotional effect of a small number of "good deals" on one side of the scale in an attempt to balance out disproportionate raw deals for more on the other.

But Scope is the Alpha and the Omega of a CBA. That section determines who every other section applies to and how many jobs thee company can farm outside the CBA in the first place, specifically to avoid the CBA in its entirety. Its not simply a weight on the scale, its the unit of measurement for the scale itself.

While its early WRT the news of this particular position, we're absolutely correct to assume that this may be an attempt to assault, either directly or through obfuscation our Sec 1 in C19.

I agree about the 15,000 observers watching the watchers though. That's our ace in the hole. But only if we don't take anything for granted. Sec 1, especially convoluted language about a million JV's etc is a high threat to watch. They can't sneak us a pay table with cuts in it and get 50.1% but the threat of a Sec 1 with holes in it (i.e. "we didn't think they would do THAT!") is very real.

I agree there should be a break between DALPA and management - but how would we enforce it?


While DALPA has never been great - over the years they have done some good (COBRA for furloughees) and some bad (guys GSing with dudes on furlough) they now seem totally dysfunctional.



I don't think this is the end of the world but its not good. RD may not be participating against us directly......................now, but who knows what will happen in the future.


Maybe he is better than a Pilot hater - who knows?


DALPA can be greatly improved with a two simple tweaks:


***You must fly in the seat and base you represent - no exceptions. If you are an FO rep and are awarded a Captain seat - adios. If you want to be an FO rep be an FO rep, if you to fly A fly A and run as A. No exceptions.



*** No more than 3 years or 1 MEC/LEC term on FPL and then back to the line for the same amount of time.


Scoop

Mox nix......Takes me back, great times, nobody on the AutoBahn, Mark was .25 cents, what's that tell you?