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I really don't have an issue with the current training hotel. I mean, it's not's the best hotel I've stayed at, but it's no where near the worst... not even near the worst compared to some of our overnights. Complaints about it come across to me as some folks will complain about anything.

I do prefer one of the non-primary hotels we use in DFW though. But not because that one is "nicer". I just like some of the offerings it has better but it certainly is not "nicer". AA proper uses that one a lot but Envoy uses it some too for those that know the reference.

If these complaints are intended to get us into the AA primary hotel, then let me complain with you. Just as long as the complaints don't land us in one of the hotels on the north side that we use sometimes.

Sorry for being somewhat cryptic but some guys here get funny about naming hotels.


And I just CAN'T leave the BBQ comments alone even though they're off topic:

1) You CAN go wrong with BBQ'd animal flesh if it's not done right. And not doing it right is more common that not.

2) If your in DFW area looking for BBQ and not going to Hard Eight's, you're not doing BBQ right. (yes, I've eaten at North Main BBQ... pedestrian at best)
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Good luck to all you 145 guys that were hired all at the same time last fall and have been stuck on reserve your first year. I hope many of you have been able to hold a line by now.
Nope. still on reserve haha. well i was hired in the winter.
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Quote: I do prefer one of the non-primary hotels we use in DFW though. But not because that one is "nicer". I just like some of the offerings it has better but it certainly is not "nicer". AA proper uses that one a lot but Envoy uses it some too for those that know the reference.
Is there really anything better about "hotel B" other than the free breakfast though? The rooms are incredibly outdated, and the location is even worse.
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Quote: Is there really anything better about "hotel B" other than the free breakfast though? The rooms are incredibly outdated, and the location is even worse.
Better:

Free breakfast
Better breakfast
A free beer in the evening (sometimes more than one if you have the right bartender)
Food on evening menu is better, with a better price after discount

I hear rooms in new wing have more than just a little fridge and microwave but I haven't had the luxury of staying there.


Worse:

Staff less friendly
Policies less friendly
Rooms outdated (still clean in my experience)
Worse location


Yes, not everything is better. But I slightly prefer "hotel B" myself and see why someone would prefer "hotel A" but am surprised at those that complain that "hotel A" is not 'nice enough'. "hotel A" isn't a bad hotel, really.

And I find it odd which one we are referring as 'hotel A' and 'hotel B'... lol.
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2) If your in DFW area looking for BBQ and not going to Hard Eight's, you're not doing BBQ right. (yes, I've eaten at North Main BBQ... pedestrian at best)
I call your Hard Eight, and go all in with Cattleack or Pecan Lodge.

Don't get me wrong, Hard 8 is really good, but not the best.
Problem is the 2hr+ wait at those 2.
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Quote: I call your Hard Eight, and go all in with Cattleack or Pecan Lodge.

Don't get me wrong, Hard 8 is really good, but not the best.
Problem is the 2hr+ wait at those 2.
Hmmm, I'm interested. My first introduction to Hard Eight's was Brady, then Stephenville, then DFW. I'm not a DFW local. I'm guessing those you mention are DFW locations?

I will say, I've never waited any amount of time when I went to a Hard Eight's though. Just pick the meat at the door and right on in.

But I'm open to new experiences. I went to North Main Street being open to new experiences and ended up wondering what the fuss was about.
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Quote: Hmmm, I'm interested. My first introduction to Hard Eight's was Brady, then Stephenville, then DFW. I'm not a DFW local. I'm guessing those you mention are DFW locations?

I will say, I've never waited any amount of time when I went to a Hard Eight's though. Just pick the meat at the door and right on in.

But I'm open to new experiences. I went to North Main Street being open to new experiences and ended up wondering what the fuss was about.
Cattleack is in Farmers Branch, Pecan Lodge is in Deep Ellum.
Cattleack is only open for lunch Thursday and Friday, and often sell out. It's a bit of a process to get food there unfortunately, but it is really, really worth it.
Pecan Lodge is open for lunch every day expect Mondays. Usually 30-60min wait. It's a bit of a Dallas institution so it's slightly touristy.
Hard 8 is convenient and very good, but if you have a long sit or something in DFW, go check them out.
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Quote: Cattleack is in Farmers Branch, Pecan Lodge is in Deep Ellum.
Cattleack is only open for lunch Thursday and Friday, and often sell out. It's a bit of a process to get food there unfortunately, but it is really, really worth it.
Pecan Lodge is open for lunch every day expect Mondays. Usually 30-60min wait. It's a bit of a Dallas institution so it's slightly touristy.
Hard 8 is convenient and very good, but if you have a long sit or something in DFW, go check them out.
Thanks, I'll look for them next time I'm there. :-)
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A number of people have gotten sick in training recently due to getting respiratory issues from the mold at the Holiday Inn Bedford. Others have been sent to a couple different LaQuintas in town. We may finally see the end of the HI Bedford,

To get additional free beer at Atrium, just ask them to top you off. If you’re a salty MD80 greyhair you can also wink at them but that doesn’t seem to be mandatory.
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Quote: A number of people have gotten sick in training recently due to getting respiratory issues from the mold at the Holiday Inn Bedford. Others have been sent to a couple different LaQuintas in town. We may finally see the end of the HI Bedford,

To get additional free beer at Atrium, just ask them to top you off. If you’re a salty MD80 greyhair you can also wink at them but that doesn’t seem to be mandatory.
I've been to some of the LQI's around DFW and I don't think they are any better.
I got lucky with my room, but some other rooms looked seriously disgusting.
Like, green slimy mold disgusting.
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