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05-11-2019, 04:44 PM

#1061

moon

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Originally Posted by martyByrde

Can this be done though? Where does it say we can refuse to be released into rest?

It's not refusing to be released into rest because they can do that to 4 am RAP to cover later flying. It's not consenting to being released early from a RAP for a next day assignment you didn't proffer for.

05-11-2019, 05:26 PM

#1062

Pedro4President

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Originally Posted by martyByrde

Specifically?

Section 12 page two I think about three paragraphs down. It’s the very last sentence of the paragraph.

05-11-2019, 05:49 PM

#1063

ERAUAV8TR

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Originally Posted by Pedro4President

Section 12 page two I think about three paragraphs down. It’s the very last sentence of the paragraph.

Looking things up is hard for peeps

05-11-2019, 06:12 PM

#1064

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Originally Posted by PiperPilot03

Call them back and tell them you do not consent to the early release. It's in the contract that you need to consent to it. I had a similar question a while back and asked the union guru. That's what he told me.

Thanks for the advise. Crew scheduling told me I had to choose accept the assignment, because I did not proffer for it. So at
Least they were up front about it.

05-11-2019, 06:20 PM

#1065

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Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup

Thanks for the advise. Crew scheduling told me I had to choose accept the assignment, because I did not proffer for it. So at
Least they were up front about it.

I’m not familiar with this part of the contract and have not looked it up but the bolded part is not in agreement with the texts above.

05-11-2019, 07:53 PM

#1066

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Originally Posted by ERAUAV8TR

Looking things up is hard for peeps

That’s why we have Nas in ground school. He teaches us to look things up. “Let’s look it up!”

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05-11-2019, 09:10 PM

#1067

Pedro4President

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Originally Posted by boiler07

Afraid of your own shadow much? Calling back means you won't get the MA. Telling them you don't consent gets you out of the RAP1 that you didn't ask for.

I know that’s what I said/agreed to in someone else’s post. There’s no need to dodge the call for a RAP2 to RAP1.

I guess I was a little vague in my post. If a pilot is on SBY/RAP and CS call to confirm ANY next day reserve assignment then a call back within 15 minutes would be my advice for probation pilots and pilots flowing within two years. I’m not going to push that topic because there’s enough implied references that would lead me to believe I need to call them back. Especially since the arbitrator ruled that pre assigned RAP1 was legal.

05-11-2019, 09:12 PM

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Looking things up is hard for peeps

This one wasn’t an easy one but by no means was it difficult. It’s in the first part of the reserve section surrounded by useless information. 12 B 6

05-11-2019, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TeeRainPULup

choose accept the assignment, because I did not proffer for it.

05-13-2019, 11:12 AM

#1070

MD-11Loader

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The PSA tards are starting to get wet because of their impending DFW invasion. Maybe we can share a crewroom as long as they don’t try to murder anyone.