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Quote: Was seeing how long it would take to hold LAS? Thanks
if you went back a page or 2…..
not too long. Unless something changes. Or remains the same…
there’s not much a new hire can’t hold within a handful of months at most. It’s ‘dynamic’ and likely to become more so. Only Denver CA is off the Table…
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Recently had two friends interview. Both disclosed their early training failures before getting the interview and before traveling to Denver. One wasn't even interviewed, turned away at the door basically. The other said he had a very strong interview in his opinion, good feedback from interview team but was told he was a liability to the training department with his previous failures. This is despite having gotten 2 type ratings, and zero failures in the past 7 years of flying. He was told come back in 6 moths. Ummm.... are those failures gonna just disappear in 6 months? Not exactly the way to handle attracting new candidates. I am sure that these two guys will dissuade many others from even applying. Pure D!ck move to bring these guys out, have them spend time and money knowing they had the records they had to a) not even interview one and b) tell the other thanks but come back in 6 mos like his record was magically gonna fix itself.
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Quote: Recently had two friends interview. Both disclosed their early training failures before getting the interview and before traveling to Denver. One wasn't even interviewed, turned away at the door basically. The other said he had a very strong interview in his opinion, good feedback from interview team but was told he was a liability to the training department with his previous failures. This is despite having gotten 2 type ratings, and zero failures in the past 7 years of flying. He was told come back in 6 moths. Ummm.... are those failures gonna just disappear in 6 months? Not exactly the way to handle attracting new candidates. I am sure that these two guys will dissuade many others from even applying. Pure D!ck move to bring these guys out, have them spend time and money knowing they had the records they had to a) not even interview one and b) tell the other thanks but come back in 6 mos like his record was magically gonna fix itself.
im a bit skeptical about the guy being told that he didn’t get hired because of his training record and the liability that could cause. They don’t disclose why someone doesn’t get hired for liability reasons. At least they’re not supposed to.
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Quote: im a bit skeptical about the guy being told that he didn’t get hired because of his training record and the liability that could cause. They don’t disclose why someone doesn’t get hired for liability reasons. At least they’re not supposed to.
Neither of these guys know each other, and each one had nearly identical quotes. "Liability to the training department". The one that didn't go through the full interview and the one that did were told nearly the same thing verbatim.
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How many failures did they have? 121?
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Quote: Neither of these guys know each other, and each one had nearly identical quotes. "Liability to the training department". The one that didn't go through the full interview and the one that did were told nearly the same thing verbatim.
Except no one is ever told why they're not hired.
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Quote: Except no one is ever told why they're not hired.
perhaps... but to have two guys that don't know each other, who interviewed on two different days, say the exact same thing? Both were interviewed by the same person. Hmmmm.
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New hire question
Hello

Can someone please give some insight into the training schedule in Denver --2022?
how long is INDOC training? FTDs and SIM?
How long/ how many legs IOE can be?
Is Ipad provided ?
Any particular subjects/topics to study before ?
Any particular recomendations before going DEN?

TIA
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Quote: Hello

Can someone please give some insight into the training schedule in Denver --2022?
how long is INDOC training? FTDs and SIM?
How long/ how many legs IOE can be?
Is Ipad provided ?
Any particular subjects/topics to study before ?
Any particular recomendations before going DEN?

TIA
You shall be there forever. And you shall like it....

No seriously, Indoc/systems is about 3 weeks. FTD/Sims are about 1.5 weeks and usually (but not always) start right after indoc/systems. IOE comes after your checkride and LOFT of course. It's all up to scheduling.
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Quote: Hello

Can someone please give some insight into the training schedule in Denver --2022?
how long is INDOC training? FTDs and SIM?
How long/ how many legs IOE can be?
Is Ipad provided ?
Any particular subjects/topics to study before ?
Any particular recomendations before going DEN?

TIA

Indoc is 3 weeks, M-F with weekends off. Hotels still being provided from what I’m aware of
FTD- 6 sessions. Some days off in-between. Typical schedule is 3 or 4 on, 2 to 4 off, 3 on (or combination thereof).
SIM is 8 sessions, similar days on/off layout as FTDs. 9th is checkride
Expect total time to be 2 months in training

OE legs are whatever they are. No min/max number. Expect 3 to 4 trips on OE
IPAD provided
I don’t recommend looking over internet gouge (limitations/mem items as they aren’t necessarily the same as ours. Limitations and mem items are typically covered in class by the instructor to help explain some of them. There’s some discussions about providing these beforehand in the near future, which would be handy IMO
Theres nothing wrong with watching videos on how the FMAs work, or some basics on how the systems work, but as for memorizing non-company info…don’t waste brain cells!
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