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Originally Posted by Dobbs18
yes yes and yes....I said this in an earlier post.....We would be much better off just going down the normal furlough road then this deal.....and for those saying that can't "furlough" people without a WARN notice, remember, it is NOT a furlough if someone ops into a ZTL by choice....if you are say 500 above the 2500 WARN line and bid ZTL in lieu of furlough, guess what? you are not furloughed!!!! People need to stop thinking that the 2500 WARN letters are some kind of stop gate because they are not! Now a person who was in no immediate danger of getting furloughed has just self furloughed themselves to the utter jubilant joy of the company....without knowing the cut line the bottom 4,000 I'd say pilots will put that sort of bid in. The company will absolutely take every pilot that puts in a ZTL bid and anyone one over the 2500 line who hasn't received a WARN notice and did not put in ZTL in lieu of furlough will get one shortly after the bid is awarded on or around 21st of August. But but that won't be 60 days notice!! Well guess what boys and girls section B.2.c of this piece of $hit says the company may offer ZTL that start in November. Anyone wonder why that is in there?? Well its so they can get the WARN letters out in the legally required time! Take the blinders of people, I wouldn't even wipe my dogs ass with this LOA.
Ready, shoot, aim.
If you were not WARNed and you bid a ZTL/1 on 1 off, you are saying that you
want a ZTL and are getting what you asked for.
If you were not WARNed, you will
not be able to bid for a conditional ZTL or 1 on 1 off. You will only get these if you ask for it.
"in lieu of furlough" means you are designated as a pilot who is getting furloughed. The company will then give you the option to take XYZ instead. You cannot take a deal that is
in lieu of a furlough if you are not eligible for furlough. That is illegal under the WARN act. I get some people are upset about this but you need to relax and think logically. I am in the bottom half of the 2500, so this is not some senior guy who's safe talking here.
Many are saying we would be better off just going down the regular old furlough path. If we collectively believe that, then no one in the 2500 will bid for any of these options. Senior pilots get the option to work less and save furloughs. Idealistic, yes. But BTLers always like to posture like we are united unlike the senior pilots.