Methinks you missed my point... I think it's a stupid idea to withhold services to "send a message that we are underpaid" by claiming a sick call as the cover. IIRC, American (and maybe United also) pilots got in legal trouble over "protest" sick calls. Performing job actions outside of self help are a risky move given the way the courts have handed down anti-labor rulings under the RLA in the last 15-20 years. Bad idea all the way around. The only way is to resign or get hired where you will be compensated accordingly, not by abuse of sick leave language.

Between the big 3, they plan on hiring nearly 3500 pilots in the next 18 months....equivalent to the entire pilot groups at Republic and Compass just disappearing.

In 3-5 years it will equal or eclipse that to the tune of another 5000-7000 again and that's not even including JB, SWA, FDX, NK, UPS, or ALK.

The problem will fix itself soon because the pipline is empty due to the short-term MBA outsourcing paradigm. Main line pilots need to hold the line and continue to shrink the bottom end (and top end but different discussion) outsourcing as opportunities present themselves.

I have a mental picture that we will be seeing the return of the DC9/727 routes on 717/M88's doing ATL-SHV-MLU-SHV-ATL, ATL-BHM-JAN-BHM-ATL, etc. in the near future as the passenger demand for those cities is stable but the separate lift capability due to no pilots to fly the block hours on a separate leg.

But hey, if I could read the future I wouldn't be hanging out on the internet with you clowns!

You are going to have to explain.

Without a pre-nup there would be no JPWA and no support from either ALPA, or management.

Hypothetically we could work together on a consensus proposal. Without ALPA to facilitate that really can't happen.

Yes, the Delta pilots could negotiate with Delta to kill outsourcing. But, frankly, your scope negotiations have been more effective than ours. Management is complying with yours; ours not so much.

Question: Since your contract and our contract is now with the same management, is it proper to use the term "our management" ? Certainly at the level these decisions are made, it is the same people calling the shots.

I love me some Marley but for that song, I prefer this version, from Peter Tosh!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOjg8mr36NQ

12.00/14.00/9.00 should be your FDP limits.

12 hours of duty without the extension
14 hours of duty with the extension
9 hours max flight time.

You should also have your PWA duty limitations. You'll see these as two numbers. An example would be 7.42/12.46

If you would like a more detailed explanation log on to the DALPA website and access the library. Search for Scheduling Alert 14-03.

Shiz,

I do not know about the rest of the carriers, but we are cutting more RJ flying than the 1,000 pilots a year we are hiring can absorb through 2017.

Bigger airplanes = Fewer Airplanes = Cost Savings

Awesome info, thanks.

ALPA would never survive a regional - mainline merger. Management knows this, that's why scope recapture will always be on their terms, not ours. Why do you think the bridge agreement requires us to be ALPA? ALPA didn't put that in there, management did. It was to ensure we could never shack up under our terms.

Happy to help. Welcome to Delta.

It should be noted that you can be required to exceed the max scheduled duty by up to two hours.

I'm not sure either on the other legacies, but pilot block hours and ASM's are returning to Delta mainline, and economics are the reason.. The goal should be to continue to force that trend via scope improvements and to put as much of the value of the dollars gained through that efficiency into the PWA.

The suction of mainline needs in growth AND retirement replacement is collapsing the regional segment, this is just the beginning and silly schemes like an "EtD" is airline management trying to mend a severed limb with a cheap bandaid. Not gonna work.

You can also call your mentor that you were assigned to. That is why they are there.