10-15-2014Quote:
They do, but how would you feel if the guys that you are working with to raise the bottom of the industry while simultaneously recapture scope, bailed on your because they opted to form a independent union where they could literally forget about these pilots? Mad to say the least.
What would you expect them to do if you formed an independent union that went and called them inferior, not worth of your time, etc? I would expect them to do what any person or organization would do, throw it back in your face. Without DAL and UCAL pilots in the same broader organization working towards the same goal of tighter scope, while helping them obtain better contracts along the way, leaves the door open for a radical few to derail the whole process.
Leaving the problem the majors created is the most short sighted action we can take. Isolationsim rarely works. We may be able to get on a pulpit and talk only about our internal issues that effect just us, but the reality is that one of the biggest issues is what this action will create.
As a guy that wants restoration as a stated goal and scope recapture, you should realize that keeping these regionals under DALPA's and UALALPA's broader control is a very wise and strategic move. It allows you to fight a one front versus a multiple front attack on your profession.
Originally Posted by acl65pilot
DAL88;They do, but how would you feel if the guys that you are working with to raise the bottom of the industry while simultaneously recapture scope, bailed on your because they opted to form a independent union where they could literally forget about these pilots? Mad to say the least.
What would you expect them to do if you formed an independent union that went and called them inferior, not worth of your time, etc? I would expect them to do what any person or organization would do, throw it back in your face. Without DAL and UCAL pilots in the same broader organization working towards the same goal of tighter scope, while helping them obtain better contracts along the way, leaves the door open for a radical few to derail the whole process.
Leaving the problem the majors created is the most short sighted action we can take. Isolationsim rarely works. We may be able to get on a pulpit and talk only about our internal issues that effect just us, but the reality is that one of the biggest issues is what this action will create.
As a guy that wants restoration as a stated goal and scope recapture, you should realize that keeping these regionals under DALPA's and UALALPA's broader control is a very wise and strategic move. It allows you to fight a one front versus a multiple front attack on your profession.
You said the regionals and the majors are better off both being in Alpa. You cite AA and Eagle. What about non union carriers like Skywest? The majors control Alpa regionals and non-union non-alpa regionals through strong scope, not because we are Alpa. Skywest is not in-house but are controlled through scope. It doesn't matter whether we are Alpa, DPA, or APA. We just need strong scope language.
Look at Southwest, are they Alpa? Nope, but they will NEVER give their flying away like we did. Republic is getting bigger because our scope language is weak. Alpa/Dalpa has sat back and watched embraer jets fly overweight with delta pax. This holding company crap is a joke.
Alpa/Dalpa is doing NOTHING on the west coast. Has anyone east of the mississippi seen what has happened to all the flying out there? Look at a route map out of LAX from 2008 and compare it to our current map. All our flying has been OUTSOURCED to Alaska/Horizon. Look at Alaska's route map. It looks like ours once did...hhhmmmm. How has this benefited our pilots? The shareholders may benefit but Buzzpat does not. He just wants to hold onto LAX. Dalpa is giving away his base through a JV.
