U actually make great points as far as im concern my vision toward this place has changed 4ever i know some people may say as time goes on we'll all forget but believe me, Not me. Eventhough i'm fairly senior and not in threat of furlough im wounded for rest of my career here. I used to be proud to wear that brown uniform but now i just wear it because i have to and it's just a job. A best job in the world and working for worst people on the planet.

25 yrs to go and no favors or waviers forever.
Sorry ups but this is personal.

I agree. I made this decision the first time I was #20 on the FE list on a SATURDAY and they wouldn't release me 3 hours early.

U were # 20 and won't let u go?? must been talking to Tara.

I don't remember who it was but all I do remember is thinking "ok, I see how this works, next time you call me for a favor, I'll be like "oh sorry, I can't"

What is a favor ?



I don't see that definition in the contract ...

Good Luck to all the "Spartans"! Seems my number is up in June.

Remember to report all management flying. We'll see what happens Monday morning over this !@#$ when the IPA marches into court......

Furloughing Union Pilots and replacing with non-union workers!

Saw this quote on the B&G

"I just flew a military charter this week , and the load master told us that Rick Barr called the charter office last week and told them to cancel 6, 747 charters in June because we do not have the crews to fly them."

IF this is true... As disgusting, reprehensible, and outlandish as this furlough is... the fact that this unnecessary UPS furlough MAY (assuming other military charters cannot not be lined up at the last minute) be affecting the United States military effort overseas is beyond disgusting.

THIS needs to be confirmed, and if true be in the media.

I 100% agree. I read this last night and it put me in one foul mood. Makes me want to puke. One way to look at it is Barr is setting up the out to cancel the furlough or mitigate it. Like he is helping our case. Time will tell.

That will get some attention.

I've been in a foul mood for a long time now but, when I read this it just about put me over the top! Who is running this place? Mickey Mouse? I pray it's not true.

My first leg of IOE at S T U P I D, the engineer, who had been at UPS for over 20 years, told me there were only two things I needed to know about UPS.

1. This company will make globs of money in spite of itself.
2. You can't spell stupid without UPS.