Imagine that...then look up the Jan Lewan Pensylvania Ploka Band....we are more like that in many ways.

I noticed that the TT requirement went from 2500 to 2000. Are they hurting that bad.

I once heard the analogy of Atlas being two left hands trying to clap while not talking to each other.

And to the previous poster word on the street is we have lost at least 5 new hires in training recently with many more requiring additional training. My guess is that is due to their inability to consistently attract high quality applicants like they have in the past(no offense to any new hires, I was one too). I am sure it is on the backs of the crew members and not the training department, as their failure rate was very low before the crap hit the fan..

Upgrade- a new hire likely will never see it. Right now it sits at 2 years - however 600
People have been hired between that pilot and the junior one.

Layovers in HKG. Sure. After the second time it's like any other place.

DH. Yep. 16 hours on the Lindsey Express from CVG-NRT. 8 guys and only 2 bunks on the upper deck next to the LAV 😘

Min layovers always on the -400

Longer layovers on the 767

2nd year pay on the 767 is 75k a year. Never break min pay. No OT out there

2nd year pay on the -400. Maybe 90k however you will be gone 21 straight days- and if you fail bidding 42 straight days.

Buyer beware. No CBA in sight

Speaking as a 2nd year 767 FO, I'd like to correct a portion of the above post:

I did not break $70k last year. $75k would have been a dream come true.

I suppose the R2 in ONT for 17 days plus the 3 day extension pushed me over. 20 days of sitting on the 3rd floor. At least there is good coffee at Krispy Kreme

Mins were lowered to 2000TT four?... three? years ago...
The only thing the have left is reducing mins to ATP.

$h!+, past that hurdle a year ago....

Right off the website:

Minimum of 2000 hours of total time

-or-

1500 TT and a Graduate of a 141, 142, or a US Military Training Program and holds an SIC/PIC Type Rating in a Turbojet Aircraft

-and-

A minimum of 500 hours Turbine

A buddy of mine failed bidding 101. 34 days out. Then was extended for 3 days. He had 7 days off. Unfortunately a 4 day commute back and forth to ANC. He was able to net 2 days off at home before heading out for 17 more.

Not bad- if you like living on the -400

Man sure is a lot of bad news on here!

It almost sounds like people are trying to scare away the new recruits. Could that be possible?

I know a <1yr. Atlas/Southern newbie who made 80G last year, was home 20 days last month which included reserve at his home base. Loves the aircraft he is on. Says he flies with some awesome dudes who are really helpful. Was going to use Atlas as a stepping stone but now actually thinks he is going to stay. Seemed pretty happy to me. Was this guy pulling my leg?

Every airline that isn't UNITED, FEDEX, UPS, DELTA, SOUTHWEST or AMERICAN is moaning that their airline is the worst. It depends on what you want. Want 121 TPIC fast? Go to Skywest and eat ramen for a couple years. Want a regional with a good QOL? Move to Puyallup and fly for Compass and enjoy the U-pick blueberries.

Sorry but some of this just doesn't add up with the stories I'm hearing from real friends on the line at Atlas.