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Originally Posted by Davetastic
I think it is self inflicted too. A couple of pages back someone made reference to a guy he was flying with that got so spun up about the progress of negotiations that he just tuned the guy out until the guy came back down to earth. YEAH, I call that self inflicted. The company did not make the guy get spun up....He did that all on his own. We own our behaviors and we don't have to resort to spinning out of control insisting that those around us must do the same.
The point was that this is a toxic work environment and the retort was that our toxic work environment is all "self inflicted".
How are contractual scheduling violations "self inflicted"?
How are contractually interrupted rest periods "self inflicted"?
How are contractual crew member contact violations "self inflicted"?
How are threatening corporate communications "self inflicted"?
How are significantly sub-par wages "self inflicted"?
How is inadequate staffing "self inflicted"?
How is inadequate catering "self inflicted"?
It is the work environment created by Atlas management that is in question here NOT the inter-crew communications on the plane. You think the cockpit is the toxic environment? Well mine isn't. I leave hate and anger on the ramp as do most every one of the other Atlas pilots that I know. There is no place for hate and anger in on the flight deck. Professional pilots know this. That doesn't mean that there can't be discussions about company or union issues, but it is not ever toxic. The toxicity comes from the company. Period.
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Originally Posted by Davetastic
I don't disagree with your points however talks about a hull loss and a "dire situation" and "the most challenging flying" are all compounded and highly amplified by individuals who bring that fight to the cockpit where is does not belong making our job more difficult than it has to be.
I agree that we need a contract but DON'T bring contract talk to the cockpit because if a disagreement ensues, barriers go up and CRM breaks down. I call that self inflicted.
You think that the Hong Kong incident had anything to do with contractual disagreements in the cockpit? Or the Narita runway incident? Or the GNE on the NAT tracks? Or the incidents at Port Harcourt, Jabara, Anchorage, or LAX? NONE of those had an ounce of blame on union issues or contractual disagreements in the cockpit. Several of those incidents could have resulted in a hull loss and the low time captains paired with low time FO's do not skew the odds at all in favor of safety.
I have nothing but respect for the new hire crew members that I fly with. We are getting some great pilots here, but flying is 10% skill and 90% judgement and that judgement comes from experience and we are accumulating a significant lack of experience at Atlas.
We are losing seasoned pilots and with that loss of experience comes an increased risk. It's that simple.