Exactly. When I applied for my current job, they wanted somebody with citation time, or at least some turbojet time. I had none, but applied anyway. I got the job, despite them having 300+ resumes the first day, and so many the second day that the email server crashed. How did I do it? By networking and staying persistent. It still amazes me how many folks in this industry just don't get it.

Yeah, well realize this:
There are lots of people like mshunter and myself that will immediately shred resumes from PFJ "pilots" like yourself when asked for input from our CPs. Your strategy might get you on with the 121 ops, but it's VERY heavily frowned upon in 135/91.

I do get it and I understand your point of view. Do you get upset with the kids whose parents pay for the kids entire college education? Its really the same concept. I just don't see the issue with someone wanting to buy a small block of time to get some real expirence. Had I had the chance to fly 100 hours of turboprop after I got my CFI 12 years ago I would have jump all over the opportunity. I guess that makes me a scab.

You can't please everyone in your career.

This goes against everything someone who cares about a career they have 12 years vested in would think. I pull out the BS card.

No one is trying to please anyone but the ones at the end of the line.

BTW, I did some searching of your posts. Your full of it, and have no clue. You lie on these forums!

Someone with 12 years in the industry and you need multi instruction!? Take your BS back to the flight sim side of things. I'm sure you have a ton of Flight Sim vids on Youtube for everyone to see you making that awsome landing in a 747 at KiaTak don't ya!

And back dating an endorsement on a napkin! Dude, thats just wrong!


Something isn't addin up about you at all.

P.S. I don't get upset at parents who pay for college. I just wish my parents had the money to pay for mine. Some don't have it so easy, and have to earn what they have. And some get mommy and daddy to buy them their way into the cockpit of a Falcon so they can put on a resume that they have turbine time with only 500hrsTT. Any decent (read as a company who takes care of their people and equipment) 135/91 operator will not hire someone without an internal recomendation. Sure, like some of your posts read, you could go work for Mesa/Mesaba/Colgan/GoJet and get into the big shiney jet. But you will also be in line with a huge amount of others who are just a number, and are on the verge of going BK if that next contract doesn't come through. Or you could get furloughed and be out of work for months on end.


The guy who I am following in his foot steps used to be Unocal's Chief Pilot. He came to work on a monday and they told him they were selling the airplanes. They paid him for the rest of the year, and gave him a severence package. He made a few phone calls and was hired by the end of the day and got a BBJ type out of it. He worked for that company for 7 years and got tired of the schedule. He took a job with a smaller operator and is now their CP, flys when he wants to, makes a healthy salary, and will retire in a few years. He flight instructed untill he got to 500hrs, then did VFR frieght in AZ, then worked 121, then did 135/91 for the remainder of his career. It can be and still is done that way. Nothing good comes without great sacrafice and hard work. Buying 100hrs of turbine time will still get you no closer than the next guy who has way more total time. Remember, everyone didn't start aviation at the same time you did(which is why you lack experince, it shows), so there are guys who have been doing it way longer, and have thier resumes in the same stack as yours. GET A CLUE!

Please PM me I can show you all my rating and employer. you got questions I got answers. While you sit with your head up high because knock on doors the rest are building seniority while you wish you were flying 121. I got my CFI in 1998 and I have kept it up ever since. When I post I'm talking the way I see it. The back dating was to help someone cover their ass. While you rub elbow with 91 I'm working yo get to the majors. And if I do land on the street I will walk into one of your 135 companies and take a job flying right next door. hell, maybe the CP can sign me off on the cocktail napkin the we will be using at the local saloon. Let not remember while we are arguing here. PFT will always live on while I never used them very few will frown upon it. If you were a CFI with 1500/200 or 800/200 turbine the guy flight turbine would most likely get the job base off his experience the the CFI guy. There are 1000's of guys right now flying that all utilize PFT to get on and they are making livings. PFT doesn't devalue your income. Airlines it self are doing it because of revenues and increase competition. But I guess you must had been sleeping that day in economics class. Oh and one more thing is my little rother post on this board with my credentials because his email is excepted and he's just breaking in to this industry. hopefully he will do PFT when he's ready to step up and want to fly 121. And I'm happy you got your contacts. We have ours to. You don't think that we drink in hotel lobbies every night rubbing elbow with other pilots. This is a small community. Its not hard to get someone to walk in your resume.

Thanks for reminding me of the quote. That's classic.
I agree, I would write a new endorsement out on a cocktail napkin and back date it. Don't forget to tape that baby in the back of the book and call it a day! I wouldn't even tell my student what I was doing.

Now, if you spoke to the fed's already, you may as well use that cocktail napkin for your beer. You will be drinking many my friend

Nice work outing the poser mshunter! In addition to his posting history, something just doesn't seem right about the way he writes... Almost as if he's very young. I think you're onto something regarding the flight simulator wannabe. Probably lives in his Mom's basement too.

With your post count, the PM function should work both ways.

"He worked for that company for 97 years and got tired of the schedule. He took a job with a smaller operator and is now their CP, flys when he wants to, makes a healthy salary, and will retire in a few years."

97 years, takes another job, and will retire in a few years?? I'd be tired too

This IS a small community, and you might consider how your attitude might affect your chances of having someone carry that resume. If I found out an applicant had written this post, the resume would be in the trash can NOW! I'm not much of a grammar nazi on these forums, but if I read a resume written as HORRIBLY as your post, it too would be trashed.... well, now that I think about it, I would probably pass it around so others could get a laugh at it.

You say you got your CFI in 1998 and TWELVE years later you haven't gotten ATP times?? From my calculations, that is less than 100 hours per year or 2-3 private IFR students. If you could not drum up a couple students a year, just how hard were you trying? I got my CFI only one year before (you claim) you did. At that time, all the CFIs I knew only instructed a year or so before moving on with 1000-1500TT. Something doesn't fit.

The PFT places I know of all let idiots pay to be the SIC in an aircraft that can be certified for single pilot operations. Again, if I am looking at a resume and see 100 hours SIC PFT/PFJ in a B1900, that tells me two things. First, the PIC of the 1900 is used to flying single pilot (or worse). Second, the applicant is willing to take shortcuts. I don't like flying with people who take shortcuts.

Lastly, for your own good in this industry or any other,



Don't Post Drunk!