All FOs startout at $36k, no matter the airframe?

How many times do I have to say
Run Away
DPJ is a joke and you will curse the day you sign that 4 year contract.
I escaped, others were not so fortunate.

Is the pay and hours worked really that bad?

I've been talking to DPJ as well. I can vouch for the details provided by others and add a few:

SIC base salary is $36K. PIC base is $61K for super midsize. If the aircraft flies more than 60 hours per month, incentive pay kicks in. FOs get $60 per hour above 60 and PICs get $90. The incentive pay encourages flying broken jets and flying them as slowly as possible.

They typically have annual increases, but I was told that there was a pay freeze this year. They hope to reinstate the raises next year.

They seem to hire for specific airframes. I've been told that if you go to CVG, you've pretty much got the job. An open question is whether you should want it.

From the people I've talked to, the people there are good. Management is a problem (see comments about Segrave above). Pay is not good. You work a lot. From what I've heard, you aren't home long enough to use flight benefits. Training is on days off. You get two weeks vacation, but with only 4 pilots per plane the other guys have to cover you when you are off and vice versa.

There is no defined rest period. They use a rolling 10 hour rest. There is no standby (FBO reserve). I've also been told that training (Simcom) is quick and that the crews have a seat-of-the-pants, cowboy style. Airline flying, or even standardized flying, this ain't.

There are four training contracts for the first four recurrents. Each contract is nine months and pro-rata. Upgrades/transitions incur a one year contract.

Another word of caution, I was also told that there is a zero tolerance alcohol policy. Guys have supposedly can be and have been fired for ANY amount of alcohol detected in a random. Don't take cough medicine on tour, I guess.

The universal view of everybody I talked to is that this is not a place to be if you have any other options.

It appears they are hiring again, same wording in the ad on bizjet. I wonder how busy they have been and what ever happened to all the Hawker 1000's they were operating when Segrave had their sub group Peagus.

Is Nelson M. still part of the operation?

How bent is DPJ on having a type rating in the aircraft they operate? I dont have any bizjet types and do not plan on paying for one.

TIA.

Is the ex-FBI Chief Pilot EW still there?

I interviewed there about 4 years ago or so and declined the job offer. EW went crazy on me saying and called me twice to harass me basically telling me I had better hope we never cross paths again and that I had somehow embarrassed him for turning down the job.

If he was being that much of a tool towards me for turning down the job, I can only imagine how crappy he is to work for.

Yup, he's still there...

dhc8fo


Can you answer my question about type ratings?^^^^^^^^