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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
Could you please explain?
Temperature levels go up and down and the Earth has definitely been a lot hotter than it is now. What is significant about current temperature readings is the rate at which those readings are increasing (in aggregate). I posted a chart on page 33 of this thread that shows a dramatic increase in the rate of change during the past 100 years.
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
Welcome to the discussion. Had you read more than 1 or 2 posts you might learn that some people here like to post all the bad news they can find while they ignore news they are unable to explain. Things like arctic ice is melting while they ignore antartic ice is expanding. Or glaciers are shrinking but not quite at the same rate they were shrinking in the 1940's or the fact that they are expanding elsewhere. We used to call those inconvenient truths untill some bozo ruined the expression.
I've read most (but I don't think all) of the posts in this thread and I posted a few times a few months ago. Jungle claimed that there wasn't a single report backed up by scientific data that showed that the Earth was getting warmer. I posted one from NASA, he didn't like it; I posted one from NOAA, he didn't like it. I realized that posting in this thread was like arguing with a bumper sticker and that the global warming debate is not a scientific debate, but a political one. I disagree with relying on opinion blogs and videos, be they of the alarmist or the denial stripe. I think it is important to clearly provide whatever data you are relying on to arrive at whatever conclusion you come to. You're absolutely right that Antarctic ice is expanding, and I think there has been an inverse correlation between the Arctic and the Antarctic ice levels for centuries. However, for the past few decades, the Arctic has lost over 5km of ice for every 1km that the Antarctic has gained. I think it is important to consider all evidence, whether confirming or disproving global warming. In all honesty, I'm open to the idea that man may not be causing global warming, but everything I've seen shows that the Earth is getting warmer and that warming is directly correlated (I know correlation is not causation) to CO2 levels.