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Old 07-11-2012 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jungle
We can get back to science whenever you like:

This is what global cooling really looks like – new tree ring study shows 2000 years of cooling...
An interesting footnote but I suspect it won't mean much in the overall scheme of things. They're saying a 0.3 degree C decrease per millennium based on one indicator, tree rings, in the face of a 0.8 degrees C increase over the last two hundred years using all the tools.

Anthony Watts' misdirect about tree rings was addressed in one the videos I posted that you didn't watch and is the root of the cranks "hide the decline" slur from the manufactured Climategate scandal.

Tree ring data has been used with coral, ice core samples, historical records and
ocean sediments to place the temperatures before the 1880s when we started
keeping the books on weather.

The tree ring data tracked along with the other indicators until the 1960s when it deviated (whether due to drought, acid rain or other pollution is unknown) but since
we were keeping temperature records then anyway, it wasn't that important.

That's the decline Mann wanted to hide because there were other more reliable
indicia that supported the scientific assertion that the atmosphere was gaining and
retaining energy due to all the carbon mankind has been belching into the air since
the industrial revolution began.

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Old 07-30-2012 | 08:33 AM
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Old 07-31-2012 | 04:46 AM
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Too little too late for some I'm afraid due to the koolaid blocking out that portion of the brain that deals with reasoning .
Old 07-31-2012 | 11:33 AM
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Climate change advocates everywhere rejoice that a tenth of humanity plunged into darkness.

India power cut hits millions, among world's worst outages | Reuters

See if you can spot the fact that Indian coal power plants have been shut down anywhere in the reuters article.
Old 10-07-2012 | 06:54 AM
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Changes to the Arctic ice cap is far ahead of most predictions:

Blakemore adds that he has spoken with climate scientists who "agree with those, including NASA scientist James Hansen, who charge that fossil fuel CEOs are guilty of a 'crime against humanity,' given the calamity that unregulated greenhouse emissions are quickly bringing on"...

Why should progressives help this system sell the illusion that the corporate media offers a "wide spectrum of views" when its biased output overwhelmingly and inevitably promotes Permanent War for resources and war on the planet? The corporate media must be confronted with the reality of what it is, and what it has done. It is vital that this be highlighted to the public it has been deceiving...
Arctic Ice Melt, Psychopathic Capitalism and the Corporate Media
Old 10-07-2012 | 07:46 AM
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NASA GISS caught changing past data again – violates Data Quality Act | Watts Up With That?

Just to put things into perspective, the government forces us at gunpoint to buy things everyday which we do not need, do not want and cannot afford, but somehow the capitalists are the crazy ones? No corporation has ever forced any of us to buy anything. You are always good for a laugh kiddo.

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Old 10-07-2012 | 08:26 AM
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No corporation has ever forced any of us to buy anything. You are always good for a laugh kiddo.
Course not, but some are in a position to abuse the public with no oversight or regulation. Gasoline? Health Care? Electricity/power? Food?, etc....
Old 10-07-2012 | 09:27 AM
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No oversight? I think you are talking about the 90 billion green energy loans that one of the candidates give to anyone who contributes to his campaign. I know you arent talking oil companies, electric or health care.
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Does that even come close to the billions in failed defense projects? I realize that we have to invest in technology AND defense, but JSF, interim fighting vehicles, rail gun, airborne laser, etc. Seems to me 90 billion is probably a drop in the bucket to all sorts of projects that republicans would support, at least initially before it's realized that they've failed.

My point was, left to their own devices, you are pretty much at gunpoint from corporations that will take advantage of you in scenarios. Either that or you choose not to live and sustain yourself.
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Does that even come close to the billions in failed defense projects? I realize that we have to invest in technology AND defense, but JSF, interim fighting vehicles, rail gun, airborne laser, etc. Seems to me 90 billion is probably a drop in the bucket to all sorts of projects that republicans would support, at least initially before it's realized that they've failed.

My point was, left to their own devices, you are pretty much at gunpoint from corporations that will take advantage of you in scenarios. Either that or you choose not to live and sustain yourself.
So throwing 90 billion at your campaign contributors who go bankrupt is OK brcause republicans support defense projects.
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