Climategate--The Final Chapter
12-04-2012 | 07:57 AM
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Re: Climategate--The Final Chapter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9xV...layer_embedded
12-04-2012 | 08:46 AM
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That video isn't going to change anyone's mind. Using words like "brainwashed" and "crank" is divisive, and skeptics want clear facts, not tearful grandmas.
12-04-2012 | 09:52 AM
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Perhaps the stimulus of 2013 can do for wind what 2009 did for solyndra:
Deval-ued Wind Power - Kevin D. Williamson - National Review Online
Deval-ued Wind Power - Kevin D. Williamson - National Review Online
12-04-2012 | 11:04 AM
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Any student of geology or natural history knows the great ice sheet which covered most of North America has been retreating for 15,000 years. Nobody is a skeptic about that.
Perhaps N2264J can tell us how to stop this natural event, or even how to bring the ice sheet back.
Perhaps N2264J can tell us how to stop this natural event, or even how to bring the ice sheet back.
12-04-2012 | 11:37 AM
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I don't want the ice sheet back. I like the warmer temps. So what if the people who built at sea level near the coast line have to move a little farther back. I don't care. Look at what happened in NJ and NYC. Why on earth would you live so close to the water and not in a raised structure. It isn't like storm surge has never happened there before. Why did we let them build like that?
12-05-2012 | 05:33 AM
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Re: Climategate--The Final Chapter
Doesn't matter. It's uplifting to see that people's minds are changing. 70% by some accounts (up from the 50s percentile just two years ago) now believe climate destabilization is real. As it turns out, cataclysmic droughts, fire seasons, hurricanes and floods are so much more compelling than mere "sciency science." We're having once-in-a-century weather events every few years now.
Skeptics can be persuaded by facts. Cranks can not. The flat earthers who post here are cranks. They're embrace of the anti-intellectual dogma of the fossil fuel industry
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.
Pilots in the 21st century who dismiss the overwhelming scientific evidence is an appalling spectacle.
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Using words like "brainwashed" and "crank" is divisive, and skeptics want clear facts, not tearful grandmas.
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.
Pilots in the 21st century who dismiss the overwhelming scientific evidence is an appalling spectacle.
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12-05-2012 | 05:59 AM
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Doesn't matter. It's uplifting to see that people's minds are changing. 70% by some accounts (up from the 50s percentile just two years ago) now believe climate destabilization is real. As it turns out, cataclysmic droughts, fire seasons, hurricanes and floods are so much more compelling than mere "sciency science." We're having once-in-a-century weather events every few years now.
Skeptics can be persuaded by facts. Cranks can not. The flat earthers who post here are cranks. They're embrace of the anti-intellectual dogma of the fossil fuel industry
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.
Pilots in the 21st century who dismiss the overwhelming scientific evidence is an appalling spectacle.
.
Skeptics can be persuaded by facts. Cranks can not. The flat earthers who post here are cranks. They're embrace of the anti-intellectual dogma of the fossil fuel industry
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.
Pilots in the 21st century who dismiss the overwhelming scientific evidence is an appalling spectacle.
.
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12-05-2012 | 07:18 AM
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To debate or disagree with someone is one thing, but the name calling is so juvenile and immature. Whenever you say crank it reminds me of a first grader calling someone else a poo poo head or fat face. Why don't you grow up and try and act like an adult and stop embarrassing yourself.
12-05-2012 | 07:55 AM
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Brain dead watermelons
CFACT punks UN with CO2 masks - YouTube
I wonder what is the progressive term for someone made to look ridiculous by a "crank".
WW
I wonder what is the progressive term for someone made to look ridiculous by a "crank".
WW
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12-05-2012 | 12:37 PM
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Skeptics can be persuaded by facts. Cranks can not. The flat earthers who post here are cranks. They're embrace of the anti-intellectual dogma of the fossil fuel industry
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.
Pilots in the 21st century who dismiss the overwhelming scientific evidence is an appalling spectacle.
.
will ultimately have the affect of marginalizing their voices to the "bitter but irrelevant" column.
Pilots in the 21st century who dismiss the overwhelming scientific evidence is an appalling spectacle.
.
Climate change is indeed real, when both hemispheres of the Earth were covered in a miles thick ice sheet and that ice sheet melted-that is climate change. There are many examples of this and equally radical climate change in the past. Clearly man had no influence in the radical climate change of the past.
What we would really like to know is what caused those climate changes, what the optimum temperature is for Earth, and how we can achieve that optimum temperature.
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