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Old 12-05-2012, 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by jungle View Post
We eagerly await any science you care to post. Unfortunately you continue to post tripe and pretend it is science.

Climate change is indeed real, when both hemispheres of the Earth were covered in a miles thick ice sheet and that ice sheet melted-that is climate change.
Awesome, you say you are eagerly awaiting the science, but then you've already made up your mind that you won't accept it.

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Old 12-05-2012, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes View Post
Awesome, you say you are eagerly awaiting the science, but then you've already made up your mind that you won't accept it.

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I fully accept the science. The science tells us most climate change happened long before man was a factor.

Science does not prove that man is currently to blame for climate change. MMGW is a theory, and the models predicting climate based on man made CO2 have been proven incorrect.

Climate change is real, the vast majority of it is the result of natural cycles. Do you think the known historic record proves otherwise?

Flat Earth indeed.

Isn't it a little naive to think the last 15,000 years of warming were man made? What caused the ice sheet to recede? What caused it to form and recede during multiple ice ages? Do you think the cosmos changes?

You have clearly made up your mind absent many scientific facts, this means you have ignored science.

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Old 12-06-2012, 05:47 AM
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I wonder what is the progressive term for someone made to look ridiculous by a "crank".
I don't know what you'd call them and I don't care. It's irrelevant.

What I know for sure is that if you believe:

- the earth is 6,000 years old, you're a crank
- evolution is a secular myth, you're a crank
- the sun revolves around the earth, you're a crank
- bleeding someone can cure them of tuberculosis, you're a crank and a quack
- the moon landing was filmed on a sound stage in New Mexico, you're a crank.

And if you believe in 2012 that anthropogenic global warming is junk science, a conspiracy and a hoax, the jury is in and the verdict: crank.

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Originally Posted by jungle View Post
We eagerly await any science you care to post. Unfortunately you continue to post tripe and pretend it is science.

Climate change is indeed real, when both hemispheres of the Earth were covered in a miles thick ice sheet and that ice sheet melted-that is climate change. There are many examples of this and equally radical climate change in the past. Clearly man had no influence in the radical climate change of the past.

What we would really like to know is what caused those climate changes, what the optimum temperature is for Earth, and how we can achieve that optimum temperature.
I don't beleive there is an optimal temp.due to the complexity involved or they would have nailed it down by now .
Just another grasping at straws actually.

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Old 12-06-2012, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jungle View Post
We eagerly await any science you care to post. Unfortunately you continue to post tripe and pretend it is science.
Why should I continue to waste my time?

I've made dozens of contributions already with reference materials you didn't read before declaring it tripe and then respond by floating something from the Heartland Institute, the WattsUpWithThat blog or some such organization that's usually funded
by Exxon or the Koch brothers.

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I would guess that many of you don't know who Smedley Butler was or what he said in a time when a real general spoke his mind:War Is A Racket, by Major General Smedley Butler, 1935
And I would guess that you don't know who Smedley Butler was either or you
wouldn't be putting him out there as a hero of yours while you shill for the same huge corporations he despised so much.

Irony is my favorite form of comedy and I suspect the irony of your position hasn't revealed itself to you yet.
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N2264J, I love it when you rant, it means you really have nothing left.

TPTB may not love us, but they still can't control the cosmos.

Speaking of irony, could you refresh our memory-who controls those corporations and is charged with regulating them, who declares war? Looks like you have only considered half the problem, Smedley didn't mention it because he was running for the senate at the time.

I won't call you a crank, just a tool of TPTB, tilting at cosmic windmills.

My suggestion is that you stop generating CO2 if you think it is a problem.

Lastly, I must mention your hating of Exxon is just too funny. Just don't buy their products-nobody is forcing you to do so.
Do you know who makes three times what Exxon does on every gallon of gas sold?

So, when you finish your rant, show us some science. We all understand that science can't change the past and it does not really care about your ideology.

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Originally Posted by N2264J View Post
I don't know what you'd call them and I don't care. It's irrelevant.

What I know for sure is that if you believe:

- the earth is 6,000 years old, you're a crank
- evolution is a secular myth, you're a crank
- the sun revolves around the earth, you're a crank
- bleeding someone can cure them of tuberculosis, you're a crank and a quack
- the moon landing was filmed on a sound stage in New Mexico, you're a crank.

And if you believe in 2012 that anthropogenic global warming is junk science, a conspiracy and a hoax, the jury is in and the verdict: crank.

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All accept the moon landing were at the time considered the settled science (usually by fiat of government supported "scientists") and used by the elites to advance their power. But I guess that irony is lost on you.

Come to think of it your North Korean brethren still deny the US moon Landings.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-16252540

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AGW is a conspiracy all right, but TPTB ain't who they appear to be.
Hint: think "cold-blooded" and "terraforming".
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AGW is a conspiracy all right, but TPTB ain't who they appear to be.
Hint: think "cold-blooded" and "terraforming".
My sources with the cold-blooded tell me they get a huge chuckle from children stamping their feet and having a tantrum because the climate cannot be controlled.

In some arenas debate is strictly prohibited because it tends to bring important facts to light: http://www.climatedepot.com/a/18726/...UN-credentials

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"We do not have any scientific proof that we are the cause of the global warming that has occurred in the last 200 years...The alarmism is driving us through scare tactics to adopt energy policies that are going to create a huge amount of energy poverty among the poor people. It's not good for people and its not good for the environment...In a warmer world we can produce more food."

Dr.Patrick Moore

So how is this problem with the poor going to be addressed?
I have one little question and that is this -
Anyone besides myself have a clue as to where political correctness originated ?


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