I took what was clearly speculation from mostly sketchy sources, converted it to fact in my mind and not only started a new thread, but also brought it up in 2 other threads using a toolish metaphor about music stopping wrt to another pilot group.

I've been rightfully admonished and I feel like a POS.

Maybe a stint as TOTD will do me some good.


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The guy sounds like Johnny Drama.

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sulkair, I don't know if that qualifies. If you screw up and recognize it, I don't think you're a tool. Tools don't generally realize what they are, and certainly don't feel bad about being one.

Makes me feel better. I appreciate it busdriver.

Glad to help. And if you fessed up and apologized, in particular you are not a POS, as you called yourself. We have all made errors in judgment, that's for sure!

Now just don't let it torment you.

Look cactus, I do see your point of view, and I recognize the varied participants. Why do the ones that stay, stay? It is a fantasy that having a known armed crewmember would seal security holes without opening up legion more. Cowboy mentality, enabled by bad policy, and only a subset of fervent participants, as you reference, continue to participate and "put up with a lot."

You are welcome to share some scenarios and a good analysis where you think that having a pilot carry a gun on a commercial airliner behind a locked door would be a net advantage, in a new thread. Or just call all doctors a-holes instead. Attacking for stating the obvious is pretty silly.

Fortunately I predict the program will be ended pretty shortly, and rightly so.

I do help people on APC professionally and have done so in the past. I'll buy a round if I ever see you in the terminal. We should make APC luggage tags!

I see why other fellow pilots are reluctant to bring up touchy subjects, despite the vast majority having identical feelings to me. I don't have to spend hours with a potentially armed hothead in a tiny room, and if I did I might not express my views in the same way. As others here have said, though, sometimes it is good to break the echo-chamber. We doctors need and do that often.

I am a gun owner myself, but the post-1990's NRA and increasingly crazy carry-your-gun-everywhere extremists left me, and most people dedicated to healing, a long long time ago.

Thanks, FTFY, and well said. Part of being a professional is helping and educating people when you are in the role, even if they are being annoying or toolish.

Your above statement is a complete explanation why you have your head up your arse, yet continue with your arrogant as well as ignorant pontificating about the pros and cons of the FFDO program without a shred of detailed knowledge of day to day operations and current airline security issues.

You have been told to Shut-F-U and "run along" by those with intimate knowledge of the program and airline security issues yet the only retort you have is the endless yapping about "hot headed cowboys" like some stoned unlicensed herbal healer who endlessly yaps that all Doctors are "quacks".

Now you want to have an internet round table in an open forum discussing detailed security issues in an airline cockpit?

Run along now and fantasize with some of those Cessna pilot books like "There I was IMC at Flight Level 180 in a Partially Occluded Warm Front in my P210"

Words.......I have none.

That reply was more toolish than the good doctors query